Art!!

Lorns · Fri 12 Oct, 2007 21.13

I was reading this today ..
http://comment.independent.co.uk/column ... 053325.ece

and there is a pic in the paper version of independant of this Fiat car she scribbled on. I really do not respect this womans opinion on art. She is a crap drawer. And to really take the piss the car is up for auction 15% of which will go to charidee. Where's the other 85% going i wonder.

Ronnie Rowlands · Sat 13 Oct, 2007 12.30

These days you can take any old piece of crap and come up with some crackpot story about how it is 'art' and you'll be praised to high heaven by the likes of Germaine Greer on Newsnight review.

Jamez · Sat 13 Oct, 2007 13.58

People who say that modern art is crap are obviously ignorant to its intention and message it's trying to convey.

Nearly everything is art, in that it has been designed. Whether it be a tree (designed by non-sentient nature) or a cracked, graffitied urinal in the Tate Modern. It's all art. Just a shame that a lot of people are ignorant.

Sput · Sat 13 Oct, 2007 14.38

Jamez wrote:Whether it be a tree (designed by non-sentient nature)

I'm inclined to disagree just here - to say it's designed implies a certain amount of planning purposefulness, and living things generally happen randomly. By the same token, nature would have to be sentient to be able to plan something.

Jamez · Sat 13 Oct, 2007 14.43

Sput wrote:
Jamez wrote:Whether it be a tree (designed by non-sentient nature)
I'm inclined to disagree just here - to say it's designed implies a certain amount of planning purposefulness, and living things generally happen randomly. By the same token, nature would have to be sentient to be able to plan something.

It's still art, though.

Sput · Sat 13 Oct, 2007 14.48

Jamez wrote:
Sput wrote:
Jamez wrote:Whether it be a tree (designed by non-sentient nature)
I'm inclined to disagree just here - to say it's designed implies a certain amount of planning purposefulness, and living things generally happen randomly. By the same token, nature would have to be sentient to be able to plan something.
It's still art, though.

I'm a Philistine.

Stuart* · Sat 13 Oct, 2007 20.30

Jamez wrote:It's still art, though.

No it isn't! The fact that you can get the Tate Modern to pay alot of money to:

"exhibit" a light switching on and off

an "empty box filled with steam"

a crack in the floor.

Get real people! It's pure farce and the joke is on us!

Sput · Sat 13 Oct, 2007 22.07

StuartPlymouth wrote:
Jamez wrote:It's still art, though.
No it isn't! The fact that you can get the Tate Modern to pay alot of money to:

"exhibit" a light switching on and off
an "empty box filled with steam"
a crack in the floor.

Get real people! It's pure farce and the joke is on us!

The real question: if it's empty, how can it be full of steam?

jamez: are these art?

Stuart* · Sun 14 Oct, 2007 00.42

Sput wrote:

An evolution of Jamez's penis perchance?

all new Phil · Sun 14 Oct, 2007 01.15

Sput wrote:I'm a Philistine.

Me too!

StuartPlymouth wrote:
Sput wrote:
An evolution of Jamez's penis perchance?

That's one hell of a zoom on that camera if so.

Jamez · Sun 14 Oct, 2007 11.19

*chortle*

I'm far too hungover and tired to respond.