What About OUR Human Rights Then?

[Death By Spreadsheet]

The recent YouGov Poll for the Telegraph showed that 24% of responses (all Muslims) sympathised with the motives and feelings of the bombers, whilst not directly supporting their methods.

Given this, I am not sure your rationale in respect of the proportion of bombers per ethnic/religious group is an accurate measurement of any threat, perceived or otherwise.

The same could probably have been said about the different communities in the Troubles in Northern Ireland, and support for the militants "representing" them.

That doesn't mean they all turned into bombers, did it?

So, my rationale is fine, thanks.

My point was that you can't judge the 'threat' by the number of bombers who carried out the various acts as you appeared to suggest.

The use of Northern Ireland as an example is a good one. The terrorists had a great deal of support for many years. The troubles lasted decades. Hundreds died.

[johnnyboy]

My point was that you can't judge the 'threat' by the number of bombers who carried out the various acts as you appeared to suggest.

Well, how can you possibly judge it then?

If the Muslims were truly a security issue, or "an existential threat to our way of life" as Blair called them, there would have been more than 8 bombings in the 57 years since the founding of Israel, 50 or so years since large-scale Muslim integration began, 14 years since the first Gulf War, 5 years since the second Intafada, near 4 years since 9/11 and 2.5 years since the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq.

It's time for some to get a sense of perspective.

The use of Northern Ireland as an example is a good one. The terrorists had a great deal of support for many years. The troubles lasted decades. Hundreds died.

Al-Qaeda is a myth - it is not some super-rich, nuclear-suitcase-carrying worldwide tentacle of terror. It is journalistic shorthand to describe a threat they can't quantify, and governmental shorthand to scare the shit out of us.

The terrorist/militant organisations in Northern Ireland were a different kettle of fish altogether, from the type of money available to them from the complicity and acquiescence of various different governments in their activities.

Again, we all need a sense of perspective.