What About OUR Human Rights Then?
seems radical, but would we be allowed to build a church in THEIR country... would be be allowed to do that? Ans: NO. Why are they allowed to build these ghastly things, and just do what they want... they should play by are rules... and if they dont like it... GET OUT they are ruining our way of life... they should do what we say, or go...
Muslims...
They're not like the rest of us.
The waltz around the streets in their suspicious clothes, they have special bank accounts on which they pay no interest, they don't interact with native Britons - blah de blah...etc.
If they want to be like that, and not BE British, then they can sod off. I find them all incredibly anti-social and self-righteous.
It seems they're only in this country to make obscene amounts of money and plot attacks. They do themselves no favours by consistently alienating themselves from the rest of us.
They're not like the rest of us.
The waltz around the streets in their suspicious clothes, they have special bank accounts on which they pay no interest, they don't interact with native Britons - blah de blah...etc.
If they want to be like that, and not BE British, then they can sod off. I find them all incredibly anti-social and self-righteous.
It seems they're only in this country to make obscene amounts of money and plot attacks. They do themselves no favours by consistently alienating themselves from the rest of us.
This is the bit I just don't get.DJGM wrote:The problem we have here, is there's a small minority of Muslims dragging the entire faith of Islam, and the words of their sacred book, The Koran, through the mud, and giving all the law abiding and proper Muslims a bad name.
When radical Jews assault school children on their way to school in Gaza, do we blame all Jews and their Holy Book? Does every Jew have to apologise for their religion and the actions "inspired" by it.
When fundamentalist Christians persecute gays, murder abortion doctors et al, does every Christian owe the rest of us an apology because it's carried out on the "pretext" of their religion?
No.
This sets a terrible precedent, DJGM.DJGM wrote:I've absolutely nothing against free speech, in principle...Once they start spouting their crap, by default, they've gone beyond the principle, and relinquish any rights to any and all free speech they have had.
When you start outlawing one kind of speech, what's going to be next? Shall we throw them in prison for their "thoughtcrimes"? Very 1984.
I hate the speech of extremists, whether Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Sikh, Christian or the BNP. But the moment we do not allow them to express their own opinions, no matter how vile, we cease to be free.
It seems that, with respect DJGM as I like you, you and people who believe as you do are going to be far better at changing our "way of life" (that Bliar is so keen to preserve) than any phantom terrorist menace.
Where does it end? A major Jewish organisation in America is trying to define criticism of the actions of the Israeli government as "anti-Semitic". What if a similar law is passed here? Will people who support the Palestinians be giving "succour" to the terrorists, and will they have all their rights taken away, as you suggest?
What a pile of brainless crap. For centuries, Britain has had many different religions - should we burn down all the non-Anglican places of worship?look wrote:they should play by are rules... and if they dont like it... GET OUT they are ruining our way of life... they should do what we say, or go..."
What is our way of life, exactly? I've been to many different parts of the country, and it's different wherever I go.
Should all Christian/Muslim/Jewish etc kids become chavs, as that seems to be a dominant "way of life" for many of our youths?
If ANYONE wants to know how dangerously close we are to stereotyping an entire group of people, try this.Jamez wrote:Muslims...
They're not like the rest of us.
The waltz around the streets in their suspicious clothes, they have special bank accounts on which they pay no interest, they don't interact with native Britons - blah de blah...etc.
If they want to be like that, and not BE British, then they can sod off. I find them all incredibly anti-social and self-righteous.
It seems they're only in this country to make obscene amounts of money and plot attacks. They do themselves no favours by consistently alienating themselves from the rest of us.
Substitute Muslims for any other religion (other than Christian). What about Jews? The Jews in Gateshead walk around in suspicious clothes, they have special bank accounts, they don't interact with native Britains - blah de blah...etc.
If they want to be like that, Jamez, are they not British either? Should they sod off?
Of course not, but the fact that it is now OK to say that about Muslims is worrying similar to the persecution and disenfranchisment of other social groups throughout history. And history has dozens of examples to show us the consequences.
Wake up, Jamez, and take your head out of the Daily Mail.
Know this, friends. The most powerful human instinct is fear - we are all afraid of that we do not understand. The people are being manipulated against Muslims for political reasons - don't fall into the trap, please. We risk getting into a British version of McCarthyism if we and everyone else can't say what we think
Our way of life is where if we have something to say, we say it. WE DONT BLOW PEOPLE UP... if "these creatures" dont like our way of life, they should leave... stuff all these people from "Liberty" etc... its ok for them to blow us to pieces isnt it, when they get home, they will be too :roll: SERVES THEM RIGHT 
There are over 1.5 million Muslims in Britain, look.look wrote:Our way of life is where if we have something to say, we say it. WE DONT BLOW PEOPLE UP... if "these creatures" dont like our way of life, they should leave... stuff all these people from "Liberty" etc... its ok for them to blow us to pieces isnt it, when they get home, they will be too :roll: SERVES THEM RIGHT
If the alleged perpetrators of 7/7 and 21/7 were Muslim, that makes 8 out of 1.5 million.
That's not exactly much of a threat. What sort of threat do 1.5 million chavs present to "our way of life"? You have no idea what you talk about, but, given your use of English, I suspect it's because you haven't lived any of life yet and met people from different communities.
It's a pity you lack the critical analysis and the experience of life to make such a simple judgement.
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Death By Spreadsheet
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The recent YouGov Poll for the Telegraph showed that 24% of responses (all Muslims) sympathised with the motives and feelings of the bombers, whilst not directly supporting their methods.
Given this, I am not sure your rationale in respect of the proportion of bombers per ethnic/religious group is an accurate measurement of any threat, perceived or otherwise.
Given this, I am not sure your rationale in respect of the proportion of bombers per ethnic/religious group is an accurate measurement of any threat, perceived or otherwise.
Without even considering Afghanistan or Irak ...Look wrote:WE DONT BLOW PEOPLE UP...
From <http://news.bbc.co.UK/vote2001/hi/engli ... 161166.stm>
<http://www.raf.mod.UK/history/kosovo2.html>it was revealed that Royal Air Force bombs had hit only 40% of their targets in the Kosovo conflict
So the Royal Air Force was blowing up fellow Europeans in recent years, or not?
How conveniently people forget ...
Feynman: "String theorists do not make predictions, they make excuses."
The same could probably have been said about the different communities in the Troubles in Northern Ireland, and support for the militants "representing" them.Death By Spreadsheet wrote:The recent YouGov Poll for the Telegraph showed that 24% of responses (all Muslims) sympathised with the motives and feelings of the bombers, whilst not directly supporting their methods.
Given this, I am not sure your rationale in respect of the proportion of bombers per ethnic/religious group is an accurate measurement of any threat, perceived or otherwise.
That doesn't mean they all turned into bombers, did it?
So, my rationale is fine, thanks.
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Dusty Jacket
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We have a lot of racists on this forum.
Not content with wishing a homosexual member of this forum would die of AIDS, we now have this astonishing display of ignorance and racism.
Look here:
You are a racist, ignorant and so far up your own arse it is difficult to believe.
Re-read what you have just written about 'muslims' and see if your attack is all that different.
I can't imagine Gavin Scott will ban you though, he wants your bum.
Not content with wishing a homosexual member of this forum would die of AIDS, we now have this astonishing display of ignorance and racism.
Look here:
Jamez wrote:Oh I would definately make your salon non-smoking.
Even as a smoker myself, I would not have my haircut in a smokey barbershop.
I actually stopped using a Paki cornershop because people were allowed to smoke in there.
I believe that all public places except pubs and clubs should be non-smoking. It just makes it a nicer atmosphere without the smell of cigs.
And that comes from someone who smokes 15-20 cigs and a joint or two a day!
Jamez wrote:Any yet Cardiff City Council has just given planning permission for the UK's biggest Mosque to be built in the city. It looks like something from Ali Baba, with four 100ft towers which jut into the city skyline.
There's a very interesting article about it on the much-(wrongly)hated BNP website.
I have never read such absolute drivel in all my days - and we're supposed to be 'jealous' of this person because he is 'slightly eccentric and different'?Jamez wrote:Muslims...
They're not like the rest of us.
The waltz around the streets in their suspicious clothes, they have special bank accounts on which they pay no interest, they don't interact with native Britons - blah de blah...etc.
If they want to be like that, and not BE British, then they can sod off. I find them all incredibly anti-social and self-righteous.
It seems they're only in this country to make obscene amounts of money and plot attacks. They do themselves no favours by consistently alienating themselves from the rest of us.
You are a racist, ignorant and so far up your own arse it is difficult to believe.
Re-read what you have just written about 'muslims' and see if your attack is all that different.
I can't imagine Gavin Scott will ban you though, he wants your bum.
I'm sure your posts would carry more weight if you didn't end them all with a crap gay joke.
I think jb - to follow your earlier post before look's hillarious outburst - the difference is the term "islamic terrorists." You don't get Isreali wierdos described as jewish terrorists or jewish extremeists. The prefixing of their actions with "Islamic" gets into the head of the same sort of folk who attacked the peadiatrician(sp) after the News of The Screws campaign.
I think jb - to follow your earlier post before look's hillarious outburst - the difference is the term "islamic terrorists." You don't get Isreali wierdos described as jewish terrorists or jewish extremeists. The prefixing of their actions with "Islamic" gets into the head of the same sort of folk who attacked the peadiatrician(sp) after the News of The Screws campaign.
"He has to be larger than bacon"
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Dusty Jacket
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If you read my 'jokes' carefully you will realise that they are a specific protest at the double standards in some quarters of this forum.Hymagumba wrote:I'm sure your posts would carry more weight if you didn't end them all with a crap gay joke.
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