I just wish to ask what everyones views are on the overall press coverage surrounding this topic. I have seen many reports either saying its been over hyped or its been not hyped enough, whiles other reports claimed the people that wanted to work in the UK have already done so.
Being fair the citizens of the two countries can now travel to any of the 25 other countries in the EU, and its been said Italy and even Spain have higher numbers instead of UK.
The problems with Health tourists have arisin again but that been a problem for over 20 years now, why at this moment is someone wanting to been seen to be dealing with it?
Or are the people in power just trying to look like there doing something to stop this man?http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25563222 Mind you if UKIP does win next years elections for EU, we might get finally get a proper debate on the EU.
One of my family member does not mind them coming, since there not the trouble its the romanian gypsy which are the real problem.
One Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... gging.html
Romania and Bulgarians restrictions lifted
I've seen so much Xenophobia relating to this over the past couple of weeks, usually in shops where a customer says to a cashier something about how 'THE ROMANIANS ARE COMING' or how they will supposedly steal all of *our* jobs, take all of *our* housing, use all of *our* resources, eat our children, etc.
If UKIP don't win at least one seat in the next election I will be gobsmacked.
If UKIP don't win at least one seat in the next election I will be gobsmacked.
As ever with Nigel Farage and UKIP's promises this has failed to happen. The media coverage from the right-wing press has been dreadful and incredibly Xenophobic. For some reason the Daily Mail in particular has decided to demonise the entire Romani Gypsy Society. Now if you did that to any other Ethnic group it's racist. This all has it's routes down to UKIP which on Question Time, Nigel Farage, claimed that 29 Million would be coming over this year. Which A - Won't happen and B - The population of both countries combined in 27.5 Million. UKIP and the press scaremonger over these issues and it leads to fear and xenophobia.
Don't get me started on UKIP. But I will say this - UKIP's main policy portfolio seems to be the Tories 40 years ago and stuff which nowadays would destroy the British Economy i.e. Leaving the EU will lead to 2.5% reduction in GDP, Closure of the BBC will result in a further £8bn reduction in GDP and the privatisation of the NHS is simply a bad idea.
Don't get me started on UKIP. But I will say this - UKIP's main policy portfolio seems to be the Tories 40 years ago and stuff which nowadays would destroy the British Economy i.e. Leaving the EU will lead to 2.5% reduction in GDP, Closure of the BBC will result in a further £8bn reduction in GDP and the privatisation of the NHS is simply a bad idea.
I never get bored of people on the daily mail complaining about immigration and then signing their comment as being from Thailand without a hint of irony.
The story that all the planes were full and one way tickets cost £3000 yesterday was an outright lie as a quick check of the airline website showed that not only were there loads of seats left to buy but they were selling for about £250 for a BA seat.
Yesterday the Mail tried to suggest all Romanians are going to shit on your doorstep. Classy.
The story that all the planes were full and one way tickets cost £3000 yesterday was an outright lie as a quick check of the airline website showed that not only were there loads of seats left to buy but they were selling for about £250 for a BA seat.
Yesterday the Mail tried to suggest all Romanians are going to shit on your doorstep. Classy.
"He has to be larger than bacon"
The media coverage from most quarters has been overtly racist in my opinion. But it strikes me that it's not regarded as "real" racism, and is therefore perfectly acceptable, because Bulgarians and Romanians have got white skin.
Britain has taken millions of immigrants over the years, who have arrived and settled here perfectly legally (just as the Bulgarians and Romanians are entitled to do now) but it's surely inconceivable that the stories of the last few days could ever have involved photos of people boarding planes in the Caribbean or Pakistan alongside headlines like "BENEFITS BRITAIN HERE WE COME!" (The Express today) or "THE INVASION BEGINS" (The Daily Mail yesterday).
Britain has taken millions of immigrants over the years, who have arrived and settled here perfectly legally (just as the Bulgarians and Romanians are entitled to do now) but it's surely inconceivable that the stories of the last few days could ever have involved photos of people boarding planes in the Caribbean or Pakistan alongside headlines like "BENEFITS BRITAIN HERE WE COME!" (The Express today) or "THE INVASION BEGINS" (The Daily Mail yesterday).
I don't think it's UKIP policy to close the BBC is it? The only policy I've found that relates to that is that they say non-payment of the Licence Fee should be punished through the civil courts rather than the criminal courts.DTV wrote:Don't get me started on UKIP. But I will say this - UKIP's main policy portfolio seems to be the Tories 40 years ago and stuff which nowadays would destroy the British Economy i.e. Leaving the EU will lead to 2.5% reduction in GDP, Closure of the BBC will result in a further £8bn reduction in GDP and the privatisation of the NHS is simply a bad idea.
No they have suggested at various points that the BBC would either be Privatised or Closed Down.Whataday wrote:I don't think it's UKIP policy to close the BBC is it? The only policy I've found that relates to that is that they say non-payment of the Licence Fee should be punished through the civil courts rather than the criminal courts.DTV wrote:Don't get me started on UKIP. But I will say this - UKIP's main policy portfolio seems to be the Tories 40 years ago and stuff which nowadays would destroy the British Economy i.e. Leaving the EU will lead to 2.5% reduction in GDP, Closure of the BBC will result in a further £8bn reduction in GDP and the privatisation of the NHS is simply a bad idea.
I don't understand why immigration always seems to come down to points of Xenophobia and racism. For me it's a simple matter of economics - I judge *anyone* who feels a sense of entitlement to claim benefits ('benefits scum' for lack of a better term) rather than using them legitimately (people on pensions they have worked for, people who have lost their job through no fault of their own and are actively searching for another one, and people with *serious* disabilities who *genuinely* cannot work at all), and I always consider those who do work and pay into the system as being superior to those who don't because benefits claimants cannot support the country whilst workers paying tax and national insurance can.
For me, I couldn't care less whether benefits scum are born and bred here or have come in through immigration, they're all something I despise - it really riles me that I pay into a system which I will never see a return from for committing the heinous crime of working full time whilst others will take out more than they will ever pay in because they can't be arsed. Equally, I have no issue whatsoever with anyone coming in to this country if they have secured a job or a means to support themselves.
But, I do believe that apart from tourists or (genuine) asylum seekers, nobody should be permitted entry to the UK unless they can speak fluent English and either have a full time job waiting or can demonstrate a means to support themselves. And nobody who has expressed strong views against the UK/Western society should be allowed here under any circumstances in the interests of national security, and I don't see anything racist about that at all.
For me, I couldn't care less whether benefits scum are born and bred here or have come in through immigration, they're all something I despise - it really riles me that I pay into a system which I will never see a return from for committing the heinous crime of working full time whilst others will take out more than they will ever pay in because they can't be arsed. Equally, I have no issue whatsoever with anyone coming in to this country if they have secured a job or a means to support themselves.
But, I do believe that apart from tourists or (genuine) asylum seekers, nobody should be permitted entry to the UK unless they can speak fluent English and either have a full time job waiting or can demonstrate a means to support themselves. And nobody who has expressed strong views against the UK/Western society should be allowed here under any circumstances in the interests of national security, and I don't see anything racist about that at all.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ad-UK.html
It seems the paper is not telling the whole truth.
It seems the paper is not telling the whole truth.
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You don't say.barcode wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ad-UK.html
It seems the paper is not telling the whole truth.
Really? There are millions of Brits who gallivant around Europe and beyond without language or a means of income arranged in advance.cwathen wrote:But, I do believe that apart from tourists or (genuine) asylum seekers, nobody should be permitted entry to the UK unless they can speak fluent English and either have a full time job waiting or can demonstrate a means to support themselves.
Do you think perhaps that would be considered hypocritical?