Wikileaks

[Pete]

yay? nay? anyone downloaded the insurance file?

I must say I find the Fox News reaction to it (lets go and assassinate everyone involved) very amusing.

[Dr Lobster*]

i think it's about time the double standards of the united states government is challenged.

if what the newspaper websites and bbc news is saying true, they could be fooked.

[Chie]

These reckless leaks are going to set global diplomacy back years and further leaks of this gravitas will inevitably lead to even more restrictions on everyone's freedom. It's totally irresponsible.

[Alexia]

These reckless leaks are going to set global diplomacy back years and further leaks of this gravitas will inevitably lead to even more restrictions on everyone's freedom. It's totally irresponsible.

You'd rather governments went on going unchecked, being duplicitous and basically lying behind everyone's backs?

[Beep]

These reckless leaks are going to set global diplomacy back years and further leaks of this gravitas will inevitably lead to even more restrictions on everyone's freedom. It's totally irresponsible.

You'd rather governments went on going unchecked, being duplicitous and basically lying behind everyone's backs?

He does vote Tory...

[Dr Lobster*]

These reckless leaks are going to set global diplomacy back years and further leaks of this gravitas will inevitably lead to even more restrictions on everyone's freedom. It's totally irresponsible.

if anything the opposite will happen, surely?

what this demonstrates to governments is that they can't restrict freedoms and information like they used to. the owl is out of the bag and they will never get it back in.

it highlights that with the internet, information can be hosted in places they can't get to or block and anything they do take down will already have been seen by millions of people and will be re-uploaded again in minutes or hours.

if anything, the irresponsibility is on the united states in the first place.

[barcode]

its seems Iran already know what there neighbours thought, before the leaks, but it common since that US and Soul have been talking with china if North Korea collosape.

have this stuff is utter pointless, I bet the royal family member is harry dressed up or Philip saying something stupid

[Chie]

These reckless leaks are going to set global diplomacy back years and further leaks of this gravitas will inevitably lead to even more restrictions on everyone's freedom. It's totally irresponsible.

You'd rather governments went on going unchecked, being duplicitous and basically lying behind everyone's backs?

Would you rather Pakistan, Iran, Zimbabwe and North Korea went on going unchecked? The US administration is pressing for change in backward countries like those and it was all going to plan according to the contents of these leaked communications. Until now!

Even the leadership of the UN needs keeping in check by someone, surely?

He does vote Tory...

Funny you should say that, because there are some interesting leaks about the previous government.

"Contacts who know him well report he has manic depressive tendencies – 'he's very up one minute, very down the next', and at least one…colleague has described xxx as a "'bully'"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/no ... -hound-dog

I won't be at all surprised if the minister in question turns out to be none other than Gordon Brown. Tony Blair more or less said that Gordon was a barking mad bully.

"He's like something out of the Mafiosi... He's aggressive, brutal. There's no-one to match Gordon for someone who articulates high principles while practising the lowest skulduggery."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -22411565/

[Alexia]

Would you rather Pakistan, Iran, Zimbabwe and North Korea went on going unchecked? The US are pressing for change in backward countries like those and it was all going to plan according to the contents of these leaked communications. Until now!

The UN and NATO are there to make sure that Pakistan, Iran, Zimbabwe and North Korea are pressurised into doing the right things. The USA cannot carry on being the self-appointed watchdog for the world, ruthlessly expecting of others things it would never expect to be challenged on itself.

Even the leadership of the UN needs keeping in check by someone, surely?

Perhaps, but again, why is it the USA that is the one to be doing it? Should we all live by their standards?

Many aspects of US society are laudable - but some are laughable. A free market economy which encourages but rarely results in liberal attitudes; great. Yet this is a country that generally frowns on gun control, abortion, homosexuality, atheism and the rest of the world in general. Should such an insular and isolationist country be preaching to the rest of the world how to run itself?

[Chie]

Perhaps, but again, why is it the USA that is the one to be doing it?

Because they're very good at it?

Many aspects of US society are laudable - but some are laughable. A free market economy which encourages but rarely results in liberal attitudes; great. Yet this is a country that generally frowns on gun control, abortion, homosexuality, atheism and the rest of the world in general. Should such an insular and isolationist country be preaching to the rest of the world how to run itself?

On balance the US has done many great things which the entire world benefits from. What good does North Korea, which exports chemical weapons to Syria who passes them on to paramilitary organisations do? They're completely vile, possessing no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

if anything the opposite will happen, surely?

what this demonstrates to governments is that they can't restrict freedoms and information like they used to. the owl is out of the bag and they will never get it back in.

BBC News is reporting that the US government plans to add Wikileaks to its list of foreign terrorist organisations.

Australia is handing out fines to websites that link to Wikileaks.

[Pete]

Perhaps, but again, why is it the USA that is the one to be doing it?

Because they're very good at it?

Har Har.