Organic 'has no health benefits'

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8174482.stm
Organic food is no healthier than ordinary food, a large independent review has concluded.

There is little difference in nutritional value and no evidence of any extra health benefits from eating organic produce, UK researchers found.

The Food Standards Agency who commissioned the report said the findings would help people make an "informed choice".

But the Soil Association criticised the study and called for better research.

Researchers from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine looked at all the evidence on nutrition and health benefits from the past 50 years.

Among the 55 of 162 studies that were included in the final analysis, there were a small number of differences in nutrition between organic and conventionally produced food but not large enough to be of any public health relevance, said study leader Dr Alan Dangour.

Overall the report, which is published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, found no differences in most nutrients in organically or conventionally grown crops, including in vitamin C, calcium, and iron.

The same was true for studies looking at meat, dairy and eggs.

Differences that were detected, for example in levels of nitrogen and phosphorus, were most likely to be due to differences in fertilizer use and ripeness at harvest and are unlikely to provide any health benefit, the report concluded.

Gill Fine, FSA director of consumer choice and dietary health, said: "Ensuring people have accurate information is absolutely essential in allowing us all to make informed choices about the food we eat.

"This study does not mean that people should not eat organic food.

"What it shows is that there is little, if any, nutritional difference between organic and conventionally produced food and that there is no evidence of additional health benefits from eating organic food."

She added that the FSA was neither pro nor anti organic food and recognised there were many reasons why people choose to eat organic, including animal welfare or environmental concerns.

Dr Dangour, said: "Our review indicates that there is currently no evidence to support the selection of organically over conventionally produced foods on the basis of nutritional superiority."

He added that better quality studies were needed.

Peter Melchett, policy director at the Soil Association said they were disappointed with the conclusions.

"The review rejected almost all of the existing studies of comparisons between organic and non-organic nutritional differences.

"Although the researchers say that the differences between organic and non-organic food are not 'important', due to the relatively few studies, they report in their analysis that there are higher levels of beneficial nutrients in organic compared to non-organic foods.

"Without large-scale, longitudinal research it is difficult to come to far-reaching clear conclusions on this, which was acknowledged by the authors of the FSA review.

"Also, there is not sufficient research on the long-term effects of pesticides on human health," he added.
Probably not what the organic producers needed to hear in these crunchy times - but I can't say I'm surprised by these findings.

The BBC article has vox popped a number of women types who seem hell bent on believing that there's an obvious benefit to "natural" versus "with all those pesticides added".

Oh, and one feeble sounding man who says he has lots of allergies so organic is better in that respect.

I bet his wife told him he had allergies.

Have a click on the story to hear them.
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Indeed, I buy organic peppers from tesco as they taste nicer, don't leak as much juice when cooking and I think have a nicer texture. Health benefits has never come into it. It's always been because I like the idea of less chemicals and think the taste is better.

It's a bit of an odd study to come from the FSA. It's essentially saying that iPhones don't help flamingo populations so there's no reason not to buy a blackberry.
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I thought the point of 'organic' was that it was ethically grown without genetically modified ingredients, animal captivation or preservatives.
Not quite, it's stuff that's been produced without chemicals - pesticides, fungicides, artificial fertiliser, drugs etc. Organic meat has to be free-range and not fed GM food, however I'm not sure that organic fruit and veg can't be GM... after all most of the fruit/veg we know today is artificially developed in one way or another
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Hymagumba wrote:Health benefits has never come into it. It's always been because I like the idea of less chemicals and think the taste is better.
What are the non-health-related benefits of 'less chemicals' then?

Personally I've never bought organic stuff unless absolutely necessary*, the organic stuff is always much smaller and more expensive


*my local Morrisons often have only organic garlic and beetroot!
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but this study was about "nutritional" things. If a normal pepper has the same vit c content, but also happens to be drenched in pesticides I'd prefer the organic. I don't personally like licking bottles of flash and the same applies to food.
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Hymagumba wrote:but this study was about "nutritional" things. If a normal pepper has the same vit c content, but also happens to be drenched in pesticides I'd prefer the organic. I don't personally like licking bottles of flash and the same applies to food.
But your concern is for your health vs any chemicals that might be in/on the food... therefore in your case the health benefits of organic over non-organic does 'come into it'

If pesticides improved the taste of the food would you still not buy non-organic?
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I don't recall anybody ever promoting that it was 'better' for you, as in, it contains more vitamins than non-organic?

Yes they do... a quote from the Soil Association Website:

'No food has higher amounts of beneficial minerals, essential amino acids and vitamins than organic food. Organic food avoids pesticides and all controversial additives including aspartame, tartrazine, MSG and hydrogenated fats. Organic food contains higher levels of vitamin C and minerals like calcium, magnesium, iron and chromium as well as cancer-fighting antioxidants and Omega 3. Organic milk for example, is on average 68% higher in Omega 3 essential fatty acids.
http://www.soilassociation.org/Whyorgan ... fault.aspx


Interestingly the URL says '10 reasons to choose organic' but the article now reads '5 reasons to choose organic'! :?
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The pesticides thing is a bit confusing. On Breakfast this morning the Food Services Agency rep said that any and all chemicals used to grow conventional food is "food safe". This was countered by the organic woman (with a little help from Ms Buttinski Silverton) that this doesn't take into account accumulation of the chemical in the body or quantity consumed.

My personal view is if the fruit of the crop is treated with something that is "food safe", then you eat, digest, metabolise and pass it. There shouldn't be any question of accumulation of it.

The other aspect is that if you're consuming large quantities of grown fruit and vegetables, then you're likely to negate the deleterious aspects of its growing aids.

Lets be clear - we've all eaten this stuff for decades now, and unless there's a nasty surprise waiting for us all down the line then there's absolutely NOTHING WRONG with conventionally assisted cultivation of food.

My problem with the organic mob is that they are implying a danger to health by eating regular food when there is none, and all the fussy eaters (no offence, mind) are ready to subscribe to their nonsense.

And that's not good science.

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Brain hurts now, will apply science later. Will say animal testing is good for figuring out what accumulates in organs.
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Sput wrote:Brain hurts now, will apply science later. Will say animal testing is good for figuring out what accumulates in organs.
Well I expect there's been no shortage of that done on the chemicals used in food cultivation.

These things are taken very seriously, of course. I remember when there used to be a weedkiller only available to commercial farmers, which eventually made it on to the market as "Roundup". It was something like 6 years before the product was approved for domestic use while it went through further testing.

The brand is owned by Monsanto - a food biotech company. Interestingly their website focusses on the benefits of their GM division which has, "decreased pesticide applications by 172,000 metric tons - equivalent to well over 23,700 London buses!"

I do think its right to make an informed choice, but the organic defenders seem to be making claims they just can't back up - and I object to that. It adds a dimension of guilt to low income families, who for all the right reasons want their children to eat the best product, but can't necessarily afford organic.

If they're being told something is healthier when it isn't - and the inference is that conventional food is "unhealthy", then that needs to be addressed.
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Gavin Scott wrote:The brand is owned by Monsanto - a food biotech company. Interestingly their website focusses on the benefits of their GM division which has, "decreased pesticide applications by 172,000 metric tons - equivalent to well over 23,700 London buses!"
that would be the GM crops that, if I'm not mistaken, only grow properly when used with their special fertiliser?
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