Internet Explorer 7 and Firefox 2 RC3 released

Charlie Wells · Thu 19 Oct, 2006 19.12

Today the Microsoft and Mozilla have been busy with the releases. Windows Internet Explorer 7 and Mozilla Firefox 2 RC3 have both been released.

IE7 has fixed some past bugs though throws up a few new ones to p*** off coders. Incidentally when I went to the IE section on microsoft.com I got a virus alert, caused by one of the adverts on the page. For the final release the menu has been switched on by default, whereas up to now it has been off by default.

Pete · Thu 19 Oct, 2006 20.52

Charlie Wells wrote:For the final release the menu has been switched on by default, whereas up to now it has been off by default.

has it? not on my system. I wonder if that's because I upgraded from RC3 or whatever it was at before

Dr Lobster* · Thu 19 Oct, 2006 21.08

i haven't upgraded my system yet, i never use ie at the moment.

i will give it a whirl at work and see how i get on with it though - does anybody know how to remove that search box from the toolbar?

Neil Jones · Thu 19 Oct, 2006 21.27

Hymagumba wrote:
Charlie Wells wrote:For the final release the menu has been switched on by default, whereas up to now it has been off by default.
has it? not on my system. I wonder if that's because I upgraded from RC3 or whatever it was at before

I've just dumped IE7 on a system that's never seen it before, and I can see the menu. Pity when you upgrade to IE7 from IE6 it totally ignores everything you've set.

Also a pity that the context help in Internet Explorer 7 doesn't work either - one has to click the question mark and then navigate through the actual help file itself.

One thing that's just irritated me: Why can you not move anything from the top of the screen? Sure, there's an option to unlock the toolbars and it gives you firm indiators that you can do it, but nothing actually shifts. Neither is it possible to move the address bar or the back/forward buttons or customise any of it. At least in IE6 you could move all this lot around.

The Pishing Filter's already managed to upset me as it keeps popping bubbles up at me everytime I go to any website I care to visit. I'm not keen on the idea that you go through Microsoft every time you go to new websites though.

As to the rest of the browser though, it looks much less Fisher-Price than it did previously, pages seem to load a lot faster and the way that the tabs work is a blatant Firefox rip-off. But Kudos to Microsoft though for trying, though I think it still needs a bit of work in some areas.

Not The Chef · Fri 20 Oct, 2006 01.06

Neil Jones · Fri 20 Oct, 2006 09.52

Not The Chef wrote:From a security POV, is Firefox still reccomended Weapon Of Choice?

Considering a security hole was discovered in Internet Explorer 7 literally hours after it was first released, I think we know what the answer is

Gluben · Fri 20 Oct, 2006 13.43

I'm currently using IE7, and it is a lot better to use than IE6, although it isn't as good as Firefox in terms of its layout.

Also, I keep having this problem where logos and pictures appear very pixelated, due to the zoom range I think. If it's set to 85% the page is smaller, but the images appear normally. I'm sure this is an error that hasn't been corrected by Microsoft yet.

marksi · Fri 20 Oct, 2006 15.08

http://dundats.mvps.org/Software/SoftFixes.htm

Little program which tweaks some of the IE settings. Found it recommended via an administrator on the Microsoft website in answer to the query "Why won't IE7 let me move the File, Edit etc standard toolbar to the top"...

It has allowed me to put that very toolbar above the address bar - where it belongs. It's pretty useless for anything else given that the other options are tweakable in the IE7 options, but it was worth it just for that one feature!

Pete · Fri 20 Oct, 2006 15.17

Neil Jones wrote:
Not The Chef wrote:From a security POV, is Firefox still reccomended Weapon Of Choice?
Considering a security hole was discovered in Internet Explorer 7 literally hours after it was first released, I think we know what the answer is

to be fair, there's been plenty of bugs found in firefox recently. it's how they react to the bugs that makes the difference

Pete · Sun 22 Oct, 2006 20.02

out of interest, I've uninstalled Firefox and have pledged not to install it again until Thursday at the earliest.

I've decided I want to try out IE7 properly and see if it is as good as i've been claiming

Gavin Scott · Sun 22 Oct, 2006 20.19

Hymagumba wrote:out of interest, I've uninstalled Firefox and have pledged not to install it again until Thursday at the earliest.

I've decided I want to try out IE7 properly and see if it is as good as i've been claiming

That seems like a lot of effort. You should just do what I do and state things categorically. Facts, shmacts.

Speaking hypothetically, does the new IE7 download work for people who don't have the "advantage" of running a genuine copy of Windows?