HP Slimline at PC World

Reeves · Sun 24 Sep, 2006 11.30

Thanks to the most recent PC World advert, I'm having a look at this PC: http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/572879.

I've done a little bit of research into it and it runs on an AMD Turion 64 at 1.8GHz. Can anyone tell me why this PC runs on a Turion which is designed for notebooks?

Thanks

Gavin Scott · Sun 24 Sep, 2006 12.34

Reeves wrote:Thanks to the most recent PC World advert, I'm having a look at this PC: http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/572879.

I've done a little bit of research into it and it runs on an AMD Turion 64 at 1.8GHz. Can anyone tell me why this PC runs on a Turion which is designed for notebooks?

Thanks

Maybe they are using a mobile chip because the PC has such a slim casing. Its probably got a very small fan attached.

The link you posted has "timed out" so it takes you to the home page. However, if you type 572879 into the seach box the PC you're talking about comes up.

I think it's a bit overpriced myself. I bet you could find it cheaper somewhere other than PC World.

Reeves · Sun 24 Sep, 2006 15.51

Would there be any problem with this PC running on a mobile processor then?

Neil Jones · Sun 24 Sep, 2006 19.48

Reeves wrote:Thanks to the most recent PC World advert, I'm having a look at this PC: http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/572879.

I've done a little bit of research into it and it runs on an AMD Turion 64 at 1.8GHz. Can anyone tell me why this PC runs on a Turion which is designed for notebooks?

Thanks

For anybody else to see this PC, bash "HP 7510" into the PCWorld.co.uk search box.

The size of heatsinks these days are so big now it's untrue. Therefore the only way to get a cooling solution into a case like that is to use a solution that's based on notebook technology, because all that system is is an oversized laptop.

The only thing going for the system is its size and weight, but there's next to no upgrade route on it whatsoever. Therefore when it gets long in the tooth to do what you want on it, you'll have to replace the entire lot.

The Turion processor in it isn't as bad as it could have been, but the general design of the case will render the entire thing unusable when something breaks, so it may work out expensive in the long run.

Having said that, I wouldn't buy anything from PC World anyway. For £600 you can get something a lot better than that and be able to upgrade it AND play some relatively heavy going game on it as well. You won't on that HP machine.

Reeves · Sun 24 Sep, 2006 22.22

Cheers for that Neil. I'm actually trying to find a PC with a tower rather small. I'm not really a PC-modder so I'm not really arsed if something is too awkward to replace or configure. I'd just like one that's smaller then the beast I have now.

Reading your comments, Neil, I have some questions in mind about trying to find this new ideal PC.... Before you answer them, bare in mind I'm a heavy experienced PC user, so the basics isn't really my kinda thing, hence I don't want my one anymore.

1. What would the ideal AMD processor be?
2. What would the ideal clock speed be?
3. What downsides to mini-cases have?
4. Where's the best place to find this PC?
5. Can I get a decent one for under £700?

Many thanks

Neil Jones · Sun 24 Sep, 2006 22.35

Reeves wrote:I'd just like one that's smaller then the beast I have now.

The "beast" you probably have now is probably a standard size one. IMO there is very little point in trying to cram a lot of bits into an ever decreasing space because that then generates potential for the whole lot to overheat and stop working. In the case of the HP machine above, all PC World will probably say is that you should have put it in a more ventilated place and void the warranty.

Reading your comments, Neil, I have some questions in mind about trying to find this new ideal PC.... Before you answer them, bare in mind I'm a heavy experienced PC user, so the basics isn't really my kinda thing, hence I don't want my one anymore.

1. What would the ideal AMD processor be?
2. What would the ideal clock speed be?
3. What downsides to mini-cases have?
4. Where's the best place to find this PC?
5. Can I get a decent one for under £700?

The answer to all of these questions except number 3 is "it depends". Seriously. The correct answers to number 1 and 2 depend on what you want to do with this ideal PC. The answer to number 3 is it usually limits the size of the board you can put in and the number of drives you can have but that's about it.

The answer to number 4 is not going to be "PC World" as you may have gathered from this and my other posts in the past regarding this company. In lieu of this answer, the answer to number 5 is going to be "Yes", but again depends on what you want to do with said PC.

Reeves · Mon 25 Sep, 2006 19.05

Just had another browse around, and I was wondering what you thought about this, and how I am supposed to purchase it from HP with no "Add To Basket" button?

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/ho ... 83317.html

Alarsne53 · Mon 25 Sep, 2006 22.30

The page tells you to look up a local retailer, click it and see if they stock it.

Neil Jones · Tue 26 Sep, 2006 00.03

Reeves wrote:how I am supposed to purchase it from HP with no "Add To Basket" button?

According to the site (which Firefox doesn't like as it refuses to let you open the "Find local retailer" button without adding the entire site to the trusted list), Dabs.com, The Comet Group (which'll include PC World no doubt) and Watford Electroncis (aka Savastore) sell the systems, among other places. You don't buy direct from HP if you're an end user, though if you've got enough money and a business model, you can. Dell do the same sort of thing only they will also ship to end users.

As to the system, £590 seems just a bit excessive for what it is, even if they are throwing Microsoft Works in.

Reeves · Tue 26 Sep, 2006 15.31

I've looked around and no shop seems to sell that particular model. I thought it was possible seeing as the link says "buy DIRECT from HP". Except for the cost of the PC, is there anything about it that I need to be warned about?

Neil Jones · Tue 26 Sep, 2006 22.25

Reeves wrote:I've looked around and no shop seems to sell that particular model. I thought it was possible seeing as the link says "buy DIRECT from HP". Except for the cost of the PC, is there anything about it that I need to be warned about?

At the end of the day, its your money. If you want to buy this particular HP model, and it would appear that you are keen to do so, then it doesn't matter what I do, say, advise or otherwise. There's nothing about that model that I havent' already said in this thread and others that applies to most branded computer systems, but I in my own opinion would not buy a branded computer system. Especially not an eMachines. Or a Tiny/Time, back in the day. If I had to pick a branded system, I'd have a Dell, HP or a Packard Bell.