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[MoeTheMan2025]

I know i accidentally linked to Tom's post, I apologise in advance.

[Blewatter]

My views on PC have overall been neutral to broadly supportive of them in the past. However, it does still feel that instead of listening to the concerns of the members, and former/inactive members, they have not attempted to compromise with the community. Things like Galleries and Request threads I get, and I've made my opinion on the former quite clear. However, I feel like the oversight of the PC admins, and their automated bot moderator are now really starting to grate, and actually discourage discussion.

There needs to be a better balance on moderation and letting discussions flow. By all means, stick to your guns on mocks and requests. But please have a look at rewriting the rules. There are things that I think are not necessary. There's 34 rules (well, 32, not counting superseded rules), and I do think you could easily consolidate that into a smaller set of guidelines. There are 3 separate rules on harrassment, insulting, and ad hoc attacks. And there's rules that have been superseded by other rules. It needs a clean up.

And please allow international users back on. They are a minority, but the french pres and international pres threads were killed because the website is now geoblocked to the UK and Ireland. They made some great contributions to past websites, and to PC as well.

Alas, unless another plucky person decides to go the route of starting a new forum, then there really isn't much we can do. PC Mods, who I know will likely see this (I've read rule 34, and this isn't an attack, just a well written critique), please consider what I hope is seen as constructive criticism:

1. I would look at and rewrite the rules. Just see if they can be rewritten, and if they can be simplified.
2. Bring back international users. They were active in the community, and I feel like the forum needed them.
3. Consider adding a locked announcement thread on your feedback page. I want to know what you guys are doing, and how you guys come to decisions. I feel it would be good for the community, and cause a lot less confusion and frustration.


(And no, I am not going to start a new forum. I saw what happened to Rob, I don't want that to affect my mental health, but if I did, I'd call it 'Pres Pub' and it would be green as a primary colour, because why not)

[1mbroglio]

My views on PC have overall been neutral to broadly supportive of them in the past. However, it does still feel that instead of listening to the concerns of the members, and former/inactive members, they have not attempted to compromise with the community. Things like Galleries and Request threads I get, and I've made my opinion on the former quite clear. However, I feel like the oversight of the PC admins, and their automated bot moderator are now really starting to grate, and actually discourage discussion.

There needs to be a better balance on moderation and letting discussions flow. By all means, stick to your guns on mocks and requests. But please have a look at rewriting the rules. There are things that I think are not necessary. There's 34 rules (well, 32, not counting superseded rules), and I do think you could easily consolidate that into a smaller set of guidelines. There are 3 separate rules on harrassment, insulting, and ad hoc attacks. And there's rules that have been superseded by other rules. It needs a clean up.

And please allow international users back on. They are a minority, but the french pres and international pres threads were killed because the website is now geoblocked to the UK and Ireland. They made some great contributions to past websites, and to PC as well.

Alas, unless another plucky person decides to go the route of starting a new forum, then there really isn't much we can do. PC Mods, who I know will likely see this (I've read rule 34, and this isn't an attack, just a well written critique), please consider what I hope is seen as constructive criticism:

1. I would look at and rewrite the rules. Just see if they can be rewritten, and if they can be simplified.
2. Bring back international users. They were active in the community, and I feel like the forum needed them.
3. Consider adding a locked announcement thread on your feedback page. I want to know what you guys are doing, and how you guys come to decisions. I feel it would be good for the community, and cause a lot less confusion and frustration.


(And no, I am not going to start a new forum. I saw what happened to Rob, I don't want that to affect my mental health, but if I did, I'd call it 'Pres Pub' and it would be green as a primary colour, because why not)

A well put together post with some great ideas but I fear it's a waste of time. I've looked around PC and they seem so stuck in their ways.

[MoeTheMan2025]

And if the sadministrator or soderator had courage, they'd actually do sensible things (no, this is not against Rule #34), such as:
1. Use sensible rules. Rule 20 was broken by JexedBack, but instead of being banned like genuinely innocent users, he just gets a thread closure. And BlueFrog is on there, but his youtube is banned. Just how does that make sense?
2. Bring back international users. The international block they've put upon its users is terrible. What are the technical and security reasons you are only allowing people of this country there?
3. Add a Mocks forum. I know it is against Rule 8, but that rule is absolutely the type of bullshit that could make it on Spitting Image if not careful. The "other outlets are available for these" statement, while true for Requests, is also not even close to true. r/logodesign is close enough, but there are no good logos there.
4. Kept the old design. The current design is very poor. That globe is as good as the shit ASO made on TV Forum, if it was any good it would have channel specific ones (like the one that appeared on ITVBe's last day). There was nowt wrong with the old design.
5. If the stupid soderators Cappuccino and Nescafé are named that, why not Admin PC as Barista?