You have put it far more eloquently and concisely then I could ever even try to. The sad thing being that it will continue, year after year, for the forseeable future. X-factor, Strictly, Dancing on Ice, Big Brother, Zeleb, stop, repeat...bee bee see wrote:What I'm about to say is something which I've been wanting to put into words and well-structured sentences for a long time. If you are a fan of the show, I advise you to cease reading immediately. And if you don't particularly like long-winded notes, then I suggest you also stop and do an about-turn now. For it is not pretty...
The bloody X Factor
I never see why, nobody takes me seriously when I complained against Harry Hill, Charlie Brooker or that goit who did those quiz shows. Different thing I suppose.Stuart* wrote:I call Nini. She may watch 'strictly', 'jungle' or any other 'celeb-fest', but I do take her word as gospel on these matters.
Anyway, exemplary rant there, very good. Touch digressive but good anyway. Usually I'd like to write up my own rant on why this sort of entertainment exists but I'd rather be snappy and express all that I mean in a paragraph so here's what I feel on the subject.
It's all stupid of course but people are getting rich off it and people are being entertained for reasons of shallowness and/or precarious realisation of their own aspirations through the contestants. Nothing will stop these shows from existing until one or both stops functioning as intended.
Just don't get me started on the "bring back Saturday night TV" gang.
Oh absolutely. And Saturday night TV will never be like it was in the 70s, I'm prepared to admit that. I'd like to think, though, that there will be a new twist on the genre and hopefully less drama coming in the next decade. I do miss some of the friendly nature and light-heartedness of previous entertainment, even though I'm too young to have seen it, although from clips I can gather that it was a less demanding atmosphere, albeit with the same amount of embarrassment and cock-ups that pervade today's schedules.Nini wrote:I never see why, nobody takes me seriously when I complained against Harry Hill, Charlie Brooker or that goit who did those quiz shows. Different thing I suppose.Stuart* wrote:I call Nini. She may watch 'strictly', 'jungle' or any other 'celeb-fest', but I do take her word as gospel on these matters.
Anyway, exemplary rant there, very good. Touch digressive but good anyway. Usually I'd like to write up my own rant on why this sort of entertainment exists but I'd rather be snappy and express all that I mean in a paragraph so here's what I feel on the subject.
It's all stupid of course but people are getting rich off it and people are being entertained for reasons of shallowness and/or precarious realisation of their own aspirations through the contestants. Nothing will stop these shows from existing until one or both stops functioning as intended.
Just don't get me started on the "bring back Saturday night TV" gang.
Good grief... I mean, I don't watch the X Factor, but don't you think some of the opinions expressed in this thread are... disproportionate? Worse things in life and all that.
As for my opinion, I think the X Factor like all talent shows actually plays on the throwing-the-remote-at-the-telly "OMG she can't sing for toffee" aspect in all of us, especially when you have Simon Cowell "dishing the dirt" or offering rare praise. I think shows like X Factor and, say, The Apprentice are of a piece really.
As for my opinion, I think the X Factor like all talent shows actually plays on the throwing-the-remote-at-the-telly "OMG she can't sing for toffee" aspect in all of us, especially when you have Simon Cowell "dishing the dirt" or offering rare praise. I think shows like X Factor and, say, The Apprentice are of a piece really.
Exactly. There's no single alternative that we have fractions.JonathanEx wrote:So, the campaigns for Song's To Beat The X Bloody Factor To Number 1...
Geraldine 'Once Upon a Christmas Song'
Wogan and Aled 'Little Drummer Boy'
Rick Astley 'Never Gonna Give You Up' (Facebook group)
The Blanks (Ted's band from Scrubs) 'Somewhere Over The Rainbow' (Facebook group)
Jeff Buckley 'Hallelujah"
And that's just off the top of my head. There'll be so many 'get this song to number 1!' campaigns that none of them actually will.
Peter Kay, a comedian who hasn't had much new material, if any, in the last 3 years, is now cashing in with his Geraldine character, as he did with Brian Potter and Max and Paddy. The song is slightly more bearable, being Christmassy at least, but the joke is one too far really. At least the money goes to charity though.
Wogan and Aled's version is nice, but personally, I would prefer an upbeat song for a no. 1, a new Slade or Wizzard. Plus it's a cover, which isn't necessarily a good thing.
Rick Astley - Please, come on. I'm sure he's had enough of it. I certainly have. Sure, it would be funny to beat Cowell (I'm using his name, because he is 95% of the song), but it's a sad case of affairs if he is our best shot.
The Blanks - Nice song, but not for Christmas no. 1, for the same reasons as Wogan and Aled.
My personal favourites are for Status Quo's "It's Christmas Time" (yes, there are all the jokes about their longetivity, but it is a pretty good single), or a really obscure one that has no chance of winning - "Home For Christmas Day" by The Red Car & The Blue Car, adapted from the relevant Milky Way advert. Not a chance in hell of it getting re-released, but it's so much catchier than most of the others. If I get the chance, I will re-record it, and try to orchestrate a music video featuring Jeremy Clarkson in the red car and The Stig in the blue car (with cameos by James May as Father Christmas and Richard Hammond as an elf). Top Gear would have enough pulling power with many sane individuals that it could overpower Cowell.
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Looking at this numerically, I think Geraldine will get up there but won't hit number 1 - if it couldn't go to the top with the release that followed the show, I think it's unlikely it'll go to the top during Christmas, even with a campaign behind it. In terms of Facebook groups, Astley's got 50,000 in the download pledge one, and Jeff Buckley is at about half that. Not all of those a guaranteed sales though, and there's absolutely no chance with numbers like that anyway as 275,000 bought last year's X Factor manufactured bollocks. It was double that the year before, but Leona was better so I suppose that makes sense.
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In proportion to what? Not everything can be compared to the bigger things. The largest denominator here is television so no, not really that disproportionate on that scale which I doubt anyone was making odd comparatives to human disaster.cdd wrote:Good grief... I mean, I don't watch the X Factor, but don't you think some of the opinions expressed in this thread are... disproportionate? Worse things in life and all that.
So no, you're wrong cdd.
Yes, of course there are worse things, but you're effectively saying we can't rant about anything other than "the big issues".cdd wrote:Good grief... I mean, I don't watch the X Factor, but don't you think some of the opinions expressed in this thread are... disproportionate? Worse things in life and all that.
This is the Nini I like best!Nini wrote:In proportion to what? Not everything can be compared to the bigger things. The largest denominator here is television so no, not really that disproportionate on that scale which I doubt anyone was making odd comparatives to human disaster.cdd wrote:Good grief... I mean, I don't watch the X Factor, but don't you think some of the opinions expressed in this thread are... disproportionate? Worse things in life and all that.
So no, you're wrong cdd.
Good Lord!