Baby P

[Dr Lobster*]

some of you may have noted from the newspapers over the last couple of weeks there has been some rather spurious coverage of 'baby p' who died from sustained prolonged abuse at the hands of those who were supposed to care for him - it truly is a tragic case.

nevertheless, i note that the bbc is reporting that the police are investigating the fact that some web sites have published the identities of those responsible.

there is more, the bbc news website itself also published details of the perpetrators full names and identities until recently - the page has been removed but still exists in googles cache.

but what is the point of court injunctions preventing the disclosure of identities when they can be published and hosted on a website outside the uk and there is absolutely nothing that can be done to prevent people from finding the information out - is it not an oddity that blogs can report things that big news organisations cannot ? is it time the legal system wakes up and realises that such restrictions on information disclosure are now unenforceable and meaningless?

[Sput]

Those responsible = the social workers or the people that did it?

[Dr Lobster*]

those ultimately responsible- the mother of the child and her boyfriend.

[Nick Harvey]

I refer the honourable gentlemen to a status message I used in another place at the beginning of this week.

"Nick Harvey, whilst sympathetic up to a point, is sick to death of hearing about Baby bloomin' P."

[Sput]

You're right about the measure being redundant in prohibiting people finding out, but perhaps there's some mileage in the fact that the reader/user/viewer has to actually go out of their way to find out those peoples' names, which means they'd actually have to be motivated enough to find out and I doubt that most of the outraged masses would be. The only exception is psychos or relatives of the victim. At least in not propagating the information the british broadcasters/newspapers aren't likely to be sparking off reprisals or witch-hunts.

[Nini]

This is closely related to the BNP identity list release for me in that this is a Bad Thing, these people irregardless of ideology or attributable blame do not deserve to have their identities made public if not for protection then for the plain and simple reason that the right of privacy knows no bounds.

The people who openly speak of subjecting the people on this and the BNP list to terrible violence and harm worry me because if you're willing to become some form of moral vigilante and dole out your own form of "justice" then how are you better?

Freedom of speech is good but that freedom stops where potential harm could come to someone. And also, I am sick of hearing about Baby P and I didn't even hear that much, just the chilling threats of some who wish to harm others in the name of the dead kid.

[Ronnie Rowlands]

On a completely unrelated note, until I read about it properly, I thought this "Baby P" was some kind of hip-hop artist.

I don't understand though, how on earth can the social workers notice that the child had no fingernails and no fingertips? Or was that inflicted after the last visit from a social worker?

[ashley b]

Sorry, who's this "Baby P"? I've heard nothing of this while I was in Iceland, they were too concerned with blaming Gordon Brown with ruining their economy.

[Stuart*]

Sorry, who's this "Baby P"? I've heard nothing of this while I was in Iceland, they were too concerned with blaming Gordon Brown with ruining their economy.

Ashley B, you looting a bank in Reykjavik for fun at the weekend is no excuse for ignoring important issues at home!

You were clearly absent when your contribution was required in this debate, and others of national importance involving a pantomine dance competition or episodes of EastEnders which I have never seen either!

[Sput]

<puts mod hat on>
Please keep it on-topic Stu.
<takes mod hat off>

<puts on a nice dress>

[not-ShowbizGuru]

Can't stand the PC attitude around here, it needs to stop. We need facts, not vague rubbish.

Baby P is ***** and her name is *****. THERE?

Not surprised to see this board panda to the PC censorship of the world. We should be talking about truth in this tragic case, we the British public deserve to know.