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Who will will / who should win?

I want Obama to win and expect Obama to win
34
81%
I want McCain to win and expect McCain to win
0
No votes
I want Obama to win but expect McCain to win
7
17%
I want McCain to win but expect Obama to win
1
2%
 
Total votes: 42
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Sput
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Maybe if you invoked a bit of *actual* thought instead of brainfarting generic nonsense onto the thread?

Tell you what. Explain why what you've said is true and I'll counter it.
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Sput wrote:Tell you what. Explain why what you've said is true and I'll counter it.
And give you more ammunition to nitpick? No.

Why not tell us what YOU think instead of critising what others think for a change.
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Superb! Just go ahead and make any unqualified statement you like in that case! You just look dumb because you don't appear to have any knowledge, just spouting what the media says in the most glib way possible.

SO! Let's have a go!

Utopia: It's obvious that a utopia can never be realised because one man's utopia has to be another man's dystopia. For that reason alone even if one were created it'd be destroyed by those it sidelines/excludes because it can only embody one set of values at a time.

This is not the dawning of a new era because Obama is still part of the machinery of the old one. So is the democratic party. So is the framework in which it operates. You can certainly say it's a different era, but in all likehilood the compromises you have to find as a pragmatist (that's the pro choice and the religious lobbies, for example) upset everyone who clings to rhetoric, both his and McCain's, rather than take a step back to understand why a decision has been made. To add to all that, he'll be limited by the state of affairs he inherits like the gigantic national debt and economic problems. It's hardly the dawn of a new era, at best it'll be the clearing up after the old one.

I could go on if you'd like. So feel free to counter. And don't you go accusing me of not debating things because if you bothered to look through the archives you'll see PAGES AND PAGES of me trying to make fools like *twatface understand the most basic fact. There, another of your wrong ideas vanquished.
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Sput wrote:Superb! Just go ahead and make any unqualified statement you like in that case! You just look dumb because you don't appear to have any knowledge, just spouting what the media says in the most glib way possible.

SO! Let's have a go!

Utopia: It's obvious that a utopia can never be realised because one man's utopia has to be another man's dystopia. For that reason alone even if one were created it'd be destroyed by those it sidelines/excludes because it can only embody one set of values at a time.

This is not the dawning of a new era because Obama is still part of the machinery of the old one. So is the democratic party. So is the framework in which it operates. You can certainly say it's a different era, but in all likehilood the compromises you have to find as a pragmatist (that's the pro choice and the religious lobbies, for example) upset everyone who clings to rhetoric, both his and McCain's, rather than take a step back to understand why a decision has been made. To add to all that, he'll be limited by the state of affairs he inherits like the gigantic national debt and economic problems. It's hardly the dawn of a new era, at best it'll be the clearing up after the old one.

I could go on if you'd like. So feel free to counter. And don't you go accusing me of not debating things because if you bothered to look through the archives you'll see PAGES AND PAGES of me trying to make fools like *twatface understand the most basic fact. There, another of your wrong ideas vanquished.
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Fuck, I've shat on other people's parties before and never got the paddles.
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The key is to make them ask for it.
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Ah, only El Talllow allows that sort of demand so I dunno, maybe if Chie steps in the wrong direction I can get a favourable QFT++.
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Nini wrote:Fuck, I've shat on other people's parties before and never got the paddles.
QFT-
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That makes no sense.
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Nini wrote:That makes no sense.
I gave you a minus because it was FAIRLY quotable for truth
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Huh, so it is. Right, anyone ready to say factually inaccurate things?
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