Conspiracy Theory Update - Was London an inside job?

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I'm not reporting these as fact, or necessarily saying that I believe in anything that's said, but it does make interesting reading...

"Power Outage" mysteriously takes out most CCTV cameras which could have identified the perpetrators
Sourced: Declare Peace UK
Sourced: Reuters

Explosives used in London blast are from a military source
Sourced: Israel National News
Commentary from WRH: Were both incidents "False flags"? Was Achilli Lauro a "false flag" attack? Was Munich? Are all these terror incidents blamed on Arabs, like the Lavon Affair, faked to turn world opinion against the Palestinians for Israel's political benefit?
Note: The only ever al-Qaeda cell identified were a group of Isreali Mossad agents in Palestine. Not one other 'al-Qaeda' cell has been arrested anywhere in the world.

Netanyahu, Israel Finance Minister, had early warning of explosions
Sourced: Israel National News

Bombers are suspected to be white Caucasian, not Arabs
Sourced: BBC News
Sourced: BBC News

London Underground Bombing 'Exercises' Took Place at Same Time as Real Attack
Sourced: Uruknet
Commentary from WRH: A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th.

Which is a perfect cover for people pretending to be terrorists to plant real bombs instead of fake ones, isn't it?

Just like on 9-11 when an ongoing NORAD exercise tracking 20 simulated hijacked planes provided cover for four real hijacked planes.

No working cameras at the airports where the terrorists boarded the 9-11 planes.

No working cameras on the double-decked bus.

Advance warning to Odigo.

Advance warning to Netanyahu.

Folks, do I have to paint you a picture here?

Note: What makes this interesting is that, on 9/11, FEMA had arrived in New York the day beforehand and NORAD were carrying out exercises simulating a 9/11 attack on, believe it or not, 9/11. Five Israelis were arrested for dancing and cheering during the attack on 9/11, and Israeli telecoms company Odigo paged subscribers in the US on the morning of the attack warning them not to fly that day.

Why Al-Qaeda are probably not behind the London attacks
To begin with, Al-Qaida statements come first to Arabic press not from BBC and Reuters. This statement first appear in mainstream press and was subsequently picked up by Arab press, which breaks rank with ever other statement Al-Qaida has ever issued officially. This fact alone should make the validity of this statement suspect. Secondly, the Arabic grammar used in the so-called claim of responsibility is incorrect. Al-Qaida statements have a consistency in the Arabic language that is written in their Mother tongue. Maybe most importantly, is the incomplete and incorrect ayahs from the Quran used in this alleged statement. While grammar could for arguments sake be overlook, incomplete and incorrect versus from the Quran is something the brothers of Tawheed or Holy Warriors who live and die by the word of Allah know intimately. In the ayahs quoted, they simply would not make these mistakes.
Sourced: Jihad Unspun (suspected false propoganda website

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So, if these reports are to be believed, there were a few white guys behind this using military explosives. They were not Arabs or Arabic, according to Scotland Yard.

The CCTV cameras on the bus and around the Tube stations were mysteriously broken that morning. Coincidentally, an anti-terrorism exercise simulating this exact attack was underway at the time.

Israel appears to have known about this before it happened after a warning from the British. How much did the British "intelligence services" know in advance - considering the mainstream press is indicating that they had no idea beforehand.

An unknown "terror cell" claimed responsibility for the attacks. They, unusually, approached the Western press before the Arabic press, and their use of Arabic was not that of a mother-tongue speaker. They even misquoted part of the Qu'ran, if the report is to be believed.

I don't know how much of this is true or bullshit, but, it does seem convenient that it happened at the start of the G8 summit, and one week after a document was leaked indicating that we were going to halve the size of our troops in Iraq.

There is so much information out there, it's tough what to believe. But the whole Al-Qaeda thing does seem a bit fishy still.

Discuss or flame.

Edited after marksi spotted a mistake
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marksi
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Israel appears to have known about this before it happened. If that is true, did they warn the British?
Is there proof of this, or what is it based on?
johnnyboy
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marksi wrote:
Israel appears to have known about this before it happened. If that is true, did they warn the British?
Is there proof of this, or what is it based on?
Thanks, marksi, I made a mistake. The first post will be amended to reflect this.

Someone pointed me to a couple of pages, I found it interesting and skim-read a little too much!
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marksi wrote:
Israel appears to have known about this before it happened. If that is true, did they warn the British?
Is there proof of this, or what is it based on?
Allegedly, and one has to be careful about this, Benyamin Yetinyahoo (sp?) was told of the attacks before they actually happened, and stayed in his hotel room instead of attending a meeting close to where one of the attacks happened.

This allegedly appeared on a PA press release and also on the Sky News website before being edited and removed swiftly.

Whether this is true or not, I don't really know - but it does make for interesting reading.

Some websites - read with a pinch of salt!
http://www.threeworldwars.com/blog
http://www.infowars.com
http://www.nomorefakenews.com
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johnnyboy wrote:but it does make interesting reading...
No, it really, really doesn't.

Give it a rest, just for once.
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johnnyboy wrote:...one week after a document was leaked indicating that we were going to halve the size of our troops in Iraq...
I now have an image of 3' soldiers driving around in minature tanks. I know it's pathetic, but it tickled me.
johnnyboy
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tillyoshea wrote:
johnnyboy wrote:...one week after a document was leaked indicating that we were going to halve the size of our troops in Iraq...
I now have an image of 3' soldiers driving around in minature tanks. I know it's pathetic, but it tickled me.
Puts army cutbacks into a completely different context!
babyben
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cat wrote:
johnnyboy wrote:but it does make interesting reading...
No, it really, really doesn't.

Give it a rest, just for once.
Seconded.

Everytime people die we get this crap about cover-up and conspiries.

Give us a break, and think of the families who have lost loved ones through no fault of their own.
johnnyboy
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52 people died last Thursday through no fault of their own.

All of the stuff I quoted came through media sources, all of which provided references for their information.

I'm sorry if it offends you, but if 52 people are murdered, shouldn't we try to ascertain all the facts to discover the reasons for their senseless deathes?

Apparently not.

I don't know what the truth is - all I'm doing is providing other sources of information about that incident. Why do you think it shouldn't be discussed?
babyben
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johnnyboy wrote:I'm sorry if it offends you, but if 52 people are murdered, shouldn't we try to ascertain all the facts to discover the reasons for their senseless deathes?

Apparently not.
Nonsense.

Are you the police?
Are you from the MI5?
Are you in the security service?

No, so let THEM 'get the facts'.

This is merely silly tittle-tattle. If you throw enough details about you can make a pattern than even the queen was the bus bomber - well no-one saw her on that day, she was in an arabic country three months ago.. blah blah blah.

it's all nonsense drivel.
James Martin
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Good points made JB.

I too, have not ruled out the possibility of an inside job.
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