Aye, wait until tomorrow Hyma. It would be all droopy now.
Okay. Sput.
Lively character are you? This shows someone active and positive, impulsive and ambitious but trying to keep those qualities in check. Enthusiastic, excitable, moody, tactless. You like to keep a safety margin between yourself and your objective. This could be due to an evident degree of inhibition, frustration or dissatisfaction with some aspect(s) of your life.
While ambition shows strongly throughout, it's tempered by a need for security - you wouldn't risk everything to achieve an ambition. Your ability for forward thinking helps you in that direction.
You've a healthy emotional appetite and are spiritual and intuitive. You have practical money sense which applies whether you are penniless or a millionaire.
Close or not?
Graphology. Yes, again.
Here's mine, and yes, I always sign my name in full.
Talking of signatures, why do some people who have no T's to cross in their name still go and scribble a big line across their signature?
Talking of signatures, why do some people who have no T's to cross in their name still go and scribble a big line across their signature?
I'll get to yours tomorrow.dvboy wrote:Here's mine, and yes, I always sign my name in full.
Talking of signatures, why do some people who have no T's to cross in their name still go and scribble a big line across their signature?
Interesting question about the 'big line'. A lot depends on its position and the pressure applied to the stroke, but a very heavy line coming from the end back through the rest of the signature, effectively crossing it out, is sometimes known as the 'suicide stroke'.
Goodness, he won't be HERE tomorrow!chinajan wrote:I'll get to yours tomorrow.dvboy wrote:Here's mine, and yes, I always sign my name in full.
Talking of signatures, why do some people who have no T's to cross in their name still go and scribble a big line across their signature?
Interesting question about the 'big line'. A lot depends on its position and the pressure applied to the stroke, but a very heavy line coming from the end back through the rest of the signature, effectively crossing it out, is sometimes known as the 'suicide stroke'.
OK, I'm now going to make some unprecedented criticism (!)
I hate to say it, but I think graphology is akin to palm-reading. Sure - there are very obvious things you can deem from handwriting, so it isn't completely fair to put it down to that - but I'm afraid that I don't believe as much as you say can be extracted from handwriting.
As an example: You say, Jan, that neat handwriting represents an ability to communicate well. Communicate well with who, and in what way? As you can see, it's already very vague. Some may deem one's communication more highly than another would deem that of the same person - and this is without even touching handwriting.
Just to reemphasise, I realise that there are obvious distinctions which can be made; you can probably even distinguish features about the writer's history from handwriting - but this only stretches to a limit; I honestly don't believe that complex details can be extracted from one's way of writing.
It's obviously not completely fair to akin graphology to palmistry - but I'd like to quickly compare it. I think we can all agree (without wanting to trigger a different debate) that the whole act of palmreading, in addition to tarot cards, fortune telling and that, is a load of hogwash. However, the features deemed from a person's live from their palms, etc, are very similar to what is being stated here, in these graphology "results".
Palmistry relies on very general conclusions; One can surmise that a person is "positive", but this can be interpreted in a number of ways. Again, "active" - in what way can that be interpreted? I'd say hundreds. Even something like "tactless" - which sounds direct and accurate - can be interpreted in a multitude of ways. However, it is because of this, that people believe in it so much - they interpret words, which sound targeted, in a way specific to them (and then, of course, fortune telling can proceed to predict remarkably "accurate facts" about a person's future, and state other mumbo-jumbo which the person will be inclined to believe).
Now, I've already said that graphology is not completely like pamistry; obviously, it's a very complex study and there are, as I've said, things which can be determined from it - but I don't think it's all it's trumped up to be. It's a good laugh, but like palmistry, it should be taken with a pinch (truckload) of salt.
I hate to say it, but I think graphology is akin to palm-reading. Sure - there are very obvious things you can deem from handwriting, so it isn't completely fair to put it down to that - but I'm afraid that I don't believe as much as you say can be extracted from handwriting.
As an example: You say, Jan, that neat handwriting represents an ability to communicate well. Communicate well with who, and in what way? As you can see, it's already very vague. Some may deem one's communication more highly than another would deem that of the same person - and this is without even touching handwriting.
Just to reemphasise, I realise that there are obvious distinctions which can be made; you can probably even distinguish features about the writer's history from handwriting - but this only stretches to a limit; I honestly don't believe that complex details can be extracted from one's way of writing.
It's obviously not completely fair to akin graphology to palmistry - but I'd like to quickly compare it. I think we can all agree (without wanting to trigger a different debate) that the whole act of palmreading, in addition to tarot cards, fortune telling and that, is a load of hogwash. However, the features deemed from a person's live from their palms, etc, are very similar to what is being stated here, in these graphology "results".
Palmistry relies on very general conclusions; One can surmise that a person is "positive", but this can be interpreted in a number of ways. Again, "active" - in what way can that be interpreted? I'd say hundreds. Even something like "tactless" - which sounds direct and accurate - can be interpreted in a multitude of ways. However, it is because of this, that people believe in it so much - they interpret words, which sound targeted, in a way specific to them (and then, of course, fortune telling can proceed to predict remarkably "accurate facts" about a person's future, and state other mumbo-jumbo which the person will be inclined to believe).
Now, I've already said that graphology is not completely like pamistry; obviously, it's a very complex study and there are, as I've said, things which can be determined from it - but I don't think it's all it's trumped up to be. It's a good laugh, but like palmistry, it should be taken with a pinch (truckload) of salt.
Palmreading however is more of a "your future will contain" hogwash whereas graphology is more about the general personaility of a person.
Obviously you can't see into the future which is the most obvious "what a load of crap" feature of palmreading however graphology is simply looking at the way a person writes, and therefore their movement and body language being applied to paper.
You can tell a lot from body language and therefore can tell a lot from graphology.
Obviously you can't see into the future which is the most obvious "what a load of crap" feature of palmreading however graphology is simply looking at the way a person writes, and therefore their movement and body language being applied to paper.
You can tell a lot from body language and therefore can tell a lot from graphology.
"He has to be larger than bacon"
Indeed, I've even heard of it being used in police studies. It's undoubtedly very interesting stuff! But I've seen way too many exceptions to graphology to be able to certain its veracity.Hymagumba wrote:graphology is about the general personaility of a person
Indeed you can - many subtleties are communicated through body language. But handwriting? Whether someone does their 8s clockwise or anticlockwise? whether someone does a "t" like a "plus" sign or like a capital-L with a line through?Hymaglumba wrote:...can tell a lot from body language...
I'd love some solid reasoning, however, to prove me wrong on this - but I can't help thinking that the "results" are way too general to be accurate.
Palmistry is not a good analogy, as you've acknowledged. As Hymagumba says, it's about character reading not fortune telling. For the record, I think deducing anything from where one's hand creases is bunkum. Also for the record, I said legibility indicated a good communicator, not neatness.
Handwriting is not an aimless movement. The writer has to work out a manuscript and to overcome all the psychological, physical and intellectual difficulties which hinder this accomplishment. It can give you, therefore, an account of how the writer works, plans, arranges and overcomes difficulties.
Writing means the production of letters i.e. certain agreed copybook forms, and the transformation of these forms to similar ones with certain alterations. These alterations consist of two kinds of mostly unconscious activity: the omission of parts of letters which the writer considers unpleasant, difficult to produce or unessential, and the addition or emphases of other parts, which the writer feels to be pleasant, easy to form or important.
From this point of view handwriting is an expression of the writer's unconscious likes and dislikes, tastes and preferences.
Writing is also the solving of a problem of space. The writer has an empty space to fill, to start somewhere on the left, work up and down and go on to the right. It's confirmed by the psychology of the unconscious that every problem of form and space becomes symbolic in the individual's mind of his/her own position of different shpheres of space and time. Movements upwards above the extension of short letters symbolize gravitation towards spiritual and intellectual spheres, movements below a dive into the material, sub-human and subconscious world.
You're right to say that words in an analysis can be interpreted in many different ways, but, for example, indications that Sput is an active person does not tell me whether he enjoys bungee jumping or nude roller skating - it can't be that accurate! It could even apply to a proper couch potato who is nevertheless a 'doer' in his world of work. How else can one give a character analysis, except by using adjectives?
Having said all that, I stated from the start I'm no expert at this. It should be regarded as a bit of fun, and it would be interesting to know whether Sput in particular agrees with his analysis, since I've met Mr TomS and his handwriting just confirmed my (limited) knowledge of his personality. (I did put that knowledge aside when I analysed his writing).
Here endeth, for now.
Handwriting is not an aimless movement. The writer has to work out a manuscript and to overcome all the psychological, physical and intellectual difficulties which hinder this accomplishment. It can give you, therefore, an account of how the writer works, plans, arranges and overcomes difficulties.
Writing means the production of letters i.e. certain agreed copybook forms, and the transformation of these forms to similar ones with certain alterations. These alterations consist of two kinds of mostly unconscious activity: the omission of parts of letters which the writer considers unpleasant, difficult to produce or unessential, and the addition or emphases of other parts, which the writer feels to be pleasant, easy to form or important.
From this point of view handwriting is an expression of the writer's unconscious likes and dislikes, tastes and preferences.
Writing is also the solving of a problem of space. The writer has an empty space to fill, to start somewhere on the left, work up and down and go on to the right. It's confirmed by the psychology of the unconscious that every problem of form and space becomes symbolic in the individual's mind of his/her own position of different shpheres of space and time. Movements upwards above the extension of short letters symbolize gravitation towards spiritual and intellectual spheres, movements below a dive into the material, sub-human and subconscious world.
You're right to say that words in an analysis can be interpreted in many different ways, but, for example, indications that Sput is an active person does not tell me whether he enjoys bungee jumping or nude roller skating - it can't be that accurate! It could even apply to a proper couch potato who is nevertheless a 'doer' in his world of work. How else can one give a character analysis, except by using adjectives?
Having said all that, I stated from the start I'm no expert at this. It should be regarded as a bit of fun, and it would be interesting to know whether Sput in particular agrees with his analysis, since I've met Mr TomS and his handwriting just confirmed my (limited) knowledge of his personality. (I did put that knowledge aside when I analysed his writing).
Here endeth, for now.
