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Well, after much stress and depression has come after actually liveing here we have decided to move back to Australia, on the outskirts of Perth in the middle of Summer of 2005. By the time we're over there it'll be Summer and Winter won't be for months. So this year is our last Christmas in England.

Too be honest I'm not sure what to make of all this. I'm kinda glad but I think I may miss the freedom I have here. Personally, my experiences havn't been that bad, but for the rest of the family it's as if they've been caught in Eastenders.

Alot of things need to be sorted so feel free to cast your opinions, thoughts etc..

So, will ya miss me ;)
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Are you Australian by birth? That passed me by, I must admit.

I hope it brings your family what they need. You can always come back yourself at some point.
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Cheese Head wrote:So, will ya miss me ;)
Um, this is an interweb forum, as such accessible from anywhere in the world.

And anyway, no I don't think I would... ;)
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Cheese Head wrote:Well, after much stress and depression has come after actually liveing here we have decided to move back to Australia, on the outskirts of Perth in the middle of Summer of 2005. By the time we're over there it'll be Summer and Winter won't be for months. So this year is our last Christmas in England.

Too be honest I'm not sure what to make of all this. I'm kinda glad but I think I may miss the freedom I have here. Personally, my experiences havn't been that bad, but for the rest of the family it's as if they've been caught in Eastenders.

Alot of things need to be sorted so feel free to cast your opinions, thoughts etc..

So, will ya miss me ;)
What do you find so stressful about living here?

What do you mean by the freedom you have here compared to in Austrailia?

I wouldn't mind holidaying in Austrailia if I had the cash, but I'm not too sure about living there. How is it like living there?
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What do you find so stressful about living here?

Well, over there there's no real cliques amongst people my age. ie. Townies. Also, they're so much more mature of there. I mean me mature, not cdd mature. They dont care about who's going out with who. Also, my chin hits the floor when people ask me "How big is your dick?" or "When you wank, where do you put the leftovers?". To be asked those questions in such an up front manner, I find it very demeaning and quite shocking that they do that.

And the adults are so much more mature. In Donington everybody cares about everybody else's life and they want to know who's shagging who and what not. Of course my parents do have friends, but really the rest of the people they've come across are shite.

What do you mean by the freedom you have here compared to in Austrailia?

Well, here I can just walk down to the bus station and goto Nottingham. Where we lived in Australia, the outback, big shops like Nottingham, Leicster, Derby and Lougborugh have are a minimum of two hours away. But we are moving to a suberb, so it might very well be alot easier than I found it when I last lived there.

I wouldn't mind holidaying in Austrailia if I had the cash, but I'm not too sure about living there. How is it like living there?

Thats quite a hard question to answer. Really, all I can say is that the way of life and the standards amongst people are so much higher. Like children are teached things at about 5 (ie, Smoking, Littering) whereas here you taught it at about my age, 15 (almost), or just not at all.
Are you Australian by birth? That passed me by, I must admit.

I hope it brings your family what they need. You can always come back yourself at some point.
I am, I was born on the outskirts of Sydney, born in Camden.

I think my family and I are quite happy to be going back, but it's hard to discuss until we're over there.

I know it has sounded like I have made England sound terrble, but England does have alot of good points. We just found that where we chose to live was a terrible place. But we also found that my parents don't like the way the country's run, and, I don't either.
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Cheese Head wrote:
So, will ya miss me ;)
No.

But I do wish anyone luck with such a life changing move.
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Thats quite a hard question to answer. Really, all I can say is that the way of life and the standards amongst people are so much higher. Like children are teached things at about 5 (ie, Smoking, Littering) whereas here you taught it at about my age, 15 (almost), or just not at all.
I suppose what you've seen here is the effect of some parents not bothering to teach their kids how to behave properly.

I'm surprised at the blasé attitude of some people towards the subject of litter and chewing gum. In Singapore, you would get fined for dropping litter on the street. Chewing gum sales are banned and have only been reinstated for people that have a medical need for it (e.g. nicorette gum).

Here, most schoolkids think it's OK to just toss their rubbish on the side of the street, even if they walked right past a bin! It can't it be that difficult to put the rubbish in a bin or to shove it in your pocket and then bin it when you get home?! I've always been told to put my rubbish in the nearest bin or to take it home with me and bin it then. You should see some of the pavements around London, esp. Kingston High Street - they are disgusting! They're literally covered in spots of chewing gum from people who can't be arsed to wrap it up and bin it!
And the adults are so much more mature. In Donington everybody cares about everybody else's life and they want to know who's shagging who and what not. Of course my parents do have friends, but really the rest of the people they've come across are shite.
Perhaps you should move to the salubrious suburbs in South West London?

People don't really care who's shagging who or anything like that. Yes people sometimes say hello or good morning (particularly the old folks) but other than that people just get on with their daily lives.
But we also found that my parents don't like the way the country's run, and, I don't either.
Some of the councillors around this area are complete pompous twazzocks - they can't seem to just accept progress and get on with it. Walton, in the heart of commuterland where I live has a temporary bridge for the past 40 years or so (hmm...maybe not so temporary then) and they've recently submitted plans for a new one. But yet again, the stupid councillors from the Walton Society have blocked plans for it because it looks radical and new (think of that bridge in the opening titles of Merseybeat - looks a bit like that).

The town centre is another thing - ever since I've lived here when I was 2 or 3 I've remembered it as a decrepid piece of 60's designed crap. 16 years down the line since they since announced intentions to redevelop in 1988 and there is still nothing. 2 developers have pulled out since the plans for a new centre were announced in 1996/1998 (shows progress, doesn't it?) because they've taken far too long over it. Yet again, the plans have been rejected by the oh-so-wonderful Walton Society on the grounds that the housing looks nothing the its predecessor and is a bit too radical.

It'll be the next millennium until we get something actually built and operational - the currently town centre has stood empty for a good 4 years and the graffiti artists and bunches of skateboarders and gimps in hooded sweatshirts with foul mouths and manners coupled and a poor grasp of English moved in. Only recently has the whole lot been knocked down and the area currently stands empty with lots of rubble - a wasteland if you like (cue TS Eliot poem...). And now this wrangle threatens to topple the whole lot.

How stupid can this get?

I'm sorry for rambling on but today's local rag front page has completely infuriated me about how this place is run and how stupid they are. Why can't we just learn to accept progress and get on with it? Walton hasn't really had much of a town centre since the 'decline' of 2000 when most of the shops closed down only to stand empty for 4 years.

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Well, over there there's no real cliques amongst people my age. ie. Townies. Also, they're so much more mature of there. I mean me mature, not cdd mature. They dont care about who's going out with who. Also, my chin hits the floor when people ask me "How big is your dick?" or "When you wank, where do you put the leftovers?". To be asked those questions in such an up front manner, I find it very demeaning and quite shocking that they do that.
What I don't get here is WHY they have all these segregations such as townies, grungers, rudeboys etc. Everyone is an individual - what I don't get is why people seem to feel the need to belong to one of these groups and act (and sometimes dress) like complete twats.

I've never been asked questions about such things - I guess it's a Northern thing?

Do girls ask these or do guys or indeed .. both?

Mind you talk of 'willies' and 'godknowswhatelse has existed since secondary school. I suppose it's a phase we all go through, but to ask how big your dick is ... ?!?! :shock:

The press doesn't help matters much either - in Jordan's latest book she talks about the size of her previous boyfriend's assets in rather blunt detail.
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Aston wrote:
Cheese Head wrote:So, will ya miss me ;)
Um, this is an interweb forum, as such accessible from anywhere in the world.
oh don't give him ideas.
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Chris wrote:
Thats quite a hard question to answer. Really, all I can say is that the way of life and the standards amongst people are so much higher. Like children are teached things at about 5 (ie, Smoking, Littering) whereas here you taught it at about my age, 15 (almost), or just not at all.
I suppose what you've seen here is the effect of some parents not bothering to teach their kids how to behave properly.
Thats the thing, Austalians bother to teach there children basic things, such as not to litter etc. It shocked me when I see people litter right next to empty bins.
And the adults are so much more mature. In Donington everybody cares about everybody else's life and they want to know who's shagging who and what not. Of course my parents do have friends, but really the rest of the people they've come across are shite.
Perhaps you should move to the salubrious suburbs in South West London?

People don't really care who's shagging who or anything like that. Yes people sometimes say hello or good morning (particularly the old folks) but other than that people just get on with their daily lives.
Well, we found that down south it wouldnt be like that but my parents decided it was just time "to go home" because we found that there's too many negative traits that exsist within the country.
But we also found that my parents don't like the way the country's run, and, I don't either.
Some of the councillors around this area are complete pompous twazzocks - they can't seem to just accept progress and get on with it. Walton, in the heart of commuterland where I live has a temporary bridge for the past 40 years or so (hmm...maybe not so temporary then) and they've recently submitted plans for a new one. But yet again, the stupid councillors from the Walton Society have blocked plans for it because it looks radical and new (think of that bridge in the opening titles of Merseybeat - looks a bit like that).
You have just defined the main reason for us going back. We found the way the country's run to be very backwards and indesicive. Asylum seekers arn't debated over and then given homes, theyre shipped back to there home. If the local council wants to have a local building redesigned, it will be done without thinking it will offend minorites, the elderly, or the actual public. And the fact it might look different, new, and not something from the 70's isnt something that crosses there mind once. Here, they'll ponder about it for fair to long and they just let it attract "the graffiti artists and bunches of skateboarders and gimps in hooded sweatshirts with foul mouths and manners coupled and a poor grasp of English" people.
Well, over there there's no real cliques amongst people my age. ie. Townies. Also, they're so much more mature of there. I mean me mature, not cdd mature. They dont care about who's going out with who. Also, my chin hits the floor when people ask me "How big is your dick?" or "When you wank, where do you put the leftovers?". To be asked those questions in such an up front manner, I find it very demeaning and quite shocking that they do that.
What I don't get here is WHY they have all these segregations such as townies, grungers, rudeboys etc. Everyone is an individual - what I don't get is why people seem to feel the need to belong to one of these groups and act (and sometimes dress) like complete twats.
This just doesn't exsist in Australia, of course there's ass holes because youll find them wherever you go. But people dont hate each other for the hell of it or because my friends and I dont really follow everyone else, we might have similar styles but our personalities are different and we're willing to get on with others but chavs just dont wanna know.
I've never been asked questions about such things - I guess it's a Northern thing?
In Australia the culture differs in each state/territory but it doesnt effect peoples views on other state citizens. Like in Queensland, people would drink a hot drink with a cold one. For some reason if you do that here you might get called posh and then they'd burst out into tears because they do something different.
Mind you talk of 'willies' and 'godknowswhatelse has existed since secondary school. I suppose it's a phase we all go through, but to ask how big your dick is ... ?!?! :shock:
Lol, I will agree with you there. All the risquè talks have been done and now people dont care. But I think asking about the size of ones genitalia is just a bit over the top and ever so slightly common ...
The press doesn't help matters much either - in Jordan's latest book she talks about the size of her previous boyfriend's assets in rather blunt detail.
You've just made another very good point, in Australia people's lives arnt ruled by the celebrities lives'. No one cares. And I think that is something that should be taken up here.
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Cheese Head, you realise practically everything you've written is hypocritical?
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CheeseHead wrote:in hooded sweatshirts with foul mouths and manners coupled and a poor grasp of English" people.
Those are the Townies AKA Scally, Neds,Chavas.

And the reason why goths and sk8ers don't get along with Townies is because most townies beat up people just because they don't wear nike. A case ,two years ago, when a boy got stabbed by a group of townies just because he wouldn't give his pokemon cards to them. :shock:

And the bad thing is townies are growing and growning :(
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