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Except that it's a private conversation, chie. Regardless of how he should have treated the radio Mic, he is entitled to say whatever the hell he wants in that car if he thinks it's between him and some aides. It'd be like you getting done for slander if you slag me off in your hallway but someone is listening though your letterbox
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Sput, the whole court would laugh out loud at your 'private conversation' defence.
It is a fact of common law that whether the conversation took place in a house, a car, a TV studio, a restaurant or a church hall, or whether one person witnessed the remarks or 500 people witnessed them - it's still slander. The claimant's reputation will have been defamed regardless of whether the slur on their character was made in private or out in the open for anyone to hear.

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That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.Chie wrote:Sput, the whole court would laugh out loud at your 'private conversation' defence.It is a fact of common law that whether the conversation took place in a house, a car, a TV studio, a restaurant or a church hall, or whether one person witnessed the remarks or 500 people witnessed them - it's still slander. The claimant's reputation will have been defamed regardless of whether the slur on their character was made in private or out in the open for anyone to hear.
Slander is the act of damaging someone's reputation by saying something false about them; but that absolutely doesn't extend to a private conversation between two individuals in a moving car, where one expresses an opinion to another.
"A fact of common law".

Oh chie, you don't half say some silly things.
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Well she was ill informed and reactionary.martindtanderson wrote:She was a bigot, hence it is not slander!
So I would say that makes her chie.
*badum tish*
It does. If the other individual involved in the conversation is willing to testify against the defamer as a witness then the defamed party has grounds to sue. Whether that would be enough evidence for a successful outcome alone is another matter.Gavin Scott wrote:That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.
Slander is the act of damaging someone's reputation by saying something false about them; but that absolutely doesn't extend to a private conversation between two individuals in a moving car, where one expresses an opinion to another.
"A fact of common law".![]()
Oh chie, you don't half say some silly things.
Anyway, what Gordon Brown said wasn't an opinion - he stated it as a fact.
You might surmise that she was a bigot based on extraneous factors like age, location, class, political persuasion or the media outlets she watches and reads, but she didn't actually do or say anything that proved she was one. I'm sorry to say this Martin, but you're basically being prejudiced.martindtanderson wrote:She was a bigot, hence it is not slander!
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Could go on, but suffice to say in the traditional sense of the word she was definately NOT. The misuse of the language, adjectives in particular, to enrage public feelings is horrible and does nothing to aid those trying to criticise the subject of their anger.martindtanderson wrote:She was a bigot, hence it is not slander!

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No, you're absolutely wrong chie.Chie wrote:It does. If the other individual involved in the conversation is willing to testify against the defamer as a witness then the defamed party has grounds to sue. Whether that would be enough evidence for a successful outcome alone is another matter.Gavin Scott wrote:That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.
Slander is the act of damaging someone's reputation by saying something false about them; but that absolutely doesn't extend to a private conversation between two individuals in a moving car, where one expresses an opinion to another.
"A fact of common law".![]()
Oh chie, you don't half say some silly things.
Anyway, what Gordon Brown said wasn't an opinion - he stated it as a fact.
If, for ONE SECOND, there was an ounce of accuracy in what you've said, then the papers would be full of the "s" word.
Now you don't want people to think you're foolish do you? Better to let that silly idea go.
You're calling Martin prejudiced? Pot and kettle, deary.You might surmise that she was a bigot based on extraneous factors like age, location, class, political persuasion or the media outlets she watches and reads, but she didn't actually do or say anything that proved she was one. I'm sorry to say this Martin, but you're basically being prejudiced.martindtanderson wrote:She was a bigot, hence it is not slander!
Only because it costs money!Gavin Scott wrote:No, you're absolutely wrong chie.
If, for ONE SECOND, there was an ounce of accuracy in what you've said, then the papers would be full of the "s" word.
Now you don't want people to think you're foolish do you? Better to let that silly idea go.
Prove it.Gavin Scott wrote:You're calling Martin prejudiced? Pot and kettle, deary.
By the way Gavin, shouldn't you be working if you're at work?
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Who said I was working today?Chie wrote:By the way Gavin, shouldn't you be working if you're at work?