I watched, and yes, that woman did seem like a complete nightmare. But Gordon Brown actually did a good job of appeasing her.
I think it was deliberate. There's quite a long time before he says she's a bigot, and it was poor show to release it. I'm sure that everyone has said something like that in private, and it's rather an invasion of his privacy to broadcast that. Sky most definitely wouldn't release it if it was David Cameron. Anything tainted by Murdoch should not be touched with a barge pole.
It did make him seem more human though, I've never heard him speak in that manner before.
Bigoted woman
its the bit where he "ridiculous" which is the point were he sounds most human-
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Good to hear Brown speaking his own words and not manifesto lines and PR Script!
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Labour PM in contempt for fairly commonly-held working-class attitudes shocker!
Not!
You defenders out there - amusing as you are - stop digging.
PS. This has obscured the big news of today and the Greece debacle. Clegg was on Radio 4 earlier and utterly pummelled by Eddie Mair. He's vulnerable on the economy and the thorny issue of immigation - but there's a penalty kick for his oponents over Clegg and the Lib-Dems liking for the Euro.
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You defenders out there - amusing as you are - stop digging.
PS. This has obscured the big news of today and the Greece debacle. Clegg was on Radio 4 earlier and utterly pummelled by Eddie Mair. He's vulnerable on the economy and the thorny issue of immigation - but there's a penalty kick for his oponents over Clegg and the Lib-Dems liking for the Euro.
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First time I've heard PM for ages, and I'd forgotten what a great interviewer Mair is. The usual policy questions were there - eg. he pinned Clegg down on education making him backtrack a fair bit on class size promises. But also there was a good mix with personal ones there to try and catch off guard:GavBelfast wrote:Clegg was on Radio 4 earlier and utterly pummelled by Eddie Mair. He's vulnerable on the economy and the thorny issue of immigation - but there's a penalty kick for his oponents over Clegg and the Lib-Dems liking for the Euro.
"You say you are a not a man of faith. Why don't you believe?"
"Do you think the burka is a tool of oppression?"
"What are you bad at?"
"When did you cry last?"
Really tried to get below the surface, and get a better measure of the character. Has PM done the other party leaders - or are they still to come?
Seconded.GavBelfast wrote:Labour PM in contempt for fairly commonly-held working-class attitudes shocker!
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You defenders out there - amusing as you are - stop digging.
PS. This has obscured the big news of today and the Greece debacle. Clegg was on Radio 4 earlier and utterly pummelled by Eddie Mair. He's vulnerable on the economy and the thorny issue of immigation - but there's a penalty kick for his oponents over Clegg and the Lib-Dems liking for the Euro.
It's totally unacceptable to make value judgements about someone you've only spent five minutes talking to. All she said was "all these eastern Europeans that are coming in - where are they flocking from?" To infer from this one ill-planned remark that she's a bigot is out of order.
Now if she had said "all these wops that are coming in, stealing our jobs and raping our womenfolk - where are the sponging bastards coming from? They ought to be dragged back to Dover by the ear and told to piss off back to where they came from" then yes, that would obviously indicate bigotry.
She's just an elderly lady who had difficulty conveying her concerns - there's far worse out there.
I've quickly asserted that customers who make remarks about my International Student colleagues are bigots in the 30 seconds or so it takes me to get rid of them.Chie wrote:Seconded.GavBelfast wrote:Labour PM in contempt for fairly commonly-held working-class attitudes shocker!
Not!
You defenders out there - amusing as you are - stop digging.
PS. This has obscured the big news of today and the Greece debacle. Clegg was on Radio 4 earlier and utterly pummelled by Eddie Mair. He's vulnerable on the economy and the thorny issue of immigation - but there's a penalty kick for his oponents over Clegg and the Lib-Dems liking for the Euro.
It's totally unacceptable to make value judgements about someone you've only spent five minutes talking to. All she said was "all these eastern Europeans that are coming in - where are they flocking from?" To infer from this one ill-planned remark that she's a bigot is out of order.
Now if she had said "all these wops that are coming in, stealing our jobs and raping our womenfolk - where are the sponging bastards coming from? They ought to be dragged back to Dover by the ear and told to piss off back to where they came from" then yes, that would obviously indicate bigotry.
She's just an elderly lady who had difficulty conveying her concerns - there's far worse out there.
There's nothing wrong with thinking that, but to actually say it out loud would be slanderous, frankly.WillPS wrote:I've quickly asserted that customers who make remarks about my International Student colleagues are bigots in the 30 seconds or so it takes me to get rid of them.