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Jovis wrote:
Chie wrote:The document tends to support my belief that Nick Clegg is too good to be true.
True, Clegg has the style, but he also has the substance (in my eyes, of course). The other two seem to have both, but between them, not together - Brown substance, Cameron style. Sadly, style often seems to be more important.
Brown would be an excellent Prime Minister in a country that has a population of 1. Real people are but an inconvenience to him and his Utopian ideas of how society ought to function.

Cameron is the sort of Prime Minister who would just let everyone get on with their lives, because he fully understands that human nature and instinct cannot be permanently suppressed.

Clegg is very similar to Brown, but whereas Brown gets angry with himself (because he rightly recognises that he's the one with the problem), Clegg is the kind of person who would take his frustration out on the people upon realising that he can't bend everyone to his will - just like the socialist dictators of yore.

So that's my personal analysis of the leaders in a nutshell.
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"Case", surely?
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And that where the issues start to become even clearer about personal analysis from up north.
Cameron is the sort of Prime Minister who would just let everyone get on with their lives, because he fully understands that human nature and instinct cannot be permanently suppressed.
It just sounds so much like Mrs T, alas unlike Mrs T who had principles and stuck to them fast I don't believe David does, and this is where the problems lies. Maybe SOME people will start to understand why the Scottish mentality is what it is: Brown mentally is how Scots think how society ought to function,( He been forced to aspect many forms of Thacthism) I can prove this.

What do Labour have to do to win UK wide election? it had to grab middle England, and many of them are right of labour, So No new taxes, tough on Crime, etc ( but of course improving the NHS etc)

BUT SNP? what did there have to do to win Scottish election? There had to grab the Labour voters: There had to move LEFT wing, there had to provide Socialist policies, Lets look at them..............

* Scape loans for Students ( still hopping to sum)
* Scape Car parking charges at hospitals
* Reduced cost and by 2011 Free prescription ( this was first motioned by the Scotland's socialist party)
* Free School meals for all, ( Again another Scotland's socialist party idea) just a shame Free public transport has not been pick up by the SNP.

SNP for years have been branded Tartan Tories and never got anywhere, but there had to move more LEFT wing to grab Scottish voters. SNP have many right wing policy, included a Freeze on the council tax, there were planing to make it local income tax set at national level but it went out the window.
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Apart from being a very transparent vote winner, where's the sense in free school meals for all and free public transport? What's wrong with parents who can afford to pay for school meals paying for them and people who can afford to pay for their bus fare paying for it?

Oh don't tell me.. 'it's not fair!'

Pffft. That just about sums up the far left - they're like a relentless bunch of incessantly whinging children. They'd rather everyone was equally miserable if it meant everyone was equal.

Anyway, David Cameron believes in the core Conservative principles of small government, self-determination, free enterprise, pragmatism, saving money instead of getting into debt and so on and so forth so he'll do.
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Chie wrote:Anyway, David Cameron believes in the core Conservative principles of small government, self-determination, free enterprise, pragmatism, saving money instead of getting into debt and so on and so forth so he'll do.
But Cameron supports a tax on banks and carbon trading. How's that free enterprise?
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Chie wrote:Apart from being a very transparent vote winner, where's the sense in free school meals for all and free public transport? What's wrong with parents who can afford to pay for school meals paying for them and people who can afford to pay for their bus fare paying for it?

Oh don't tell me.. 'it's not fair!'

Pffft. That just about sums up the far left - they're like a relentless bunch of incessantly whinging children. They'd rather everyone was equally miserable if it meant everyone was equal.

Anyway, David Cameron believes in the core Conservative principles of small government, self-determination, free enterprise, pragmatism, saving money instead of getting into debt and so on and so forth so he'll do.
shocker; I have to agree to with you, is utter pointless, if you making £50'000 above you should have to pay what £6? for the drugs, and also school meals. Why waste money of well Rich people with Child benefit, I bet have of them dont even cash it.

School meals; I believe it to make kids eat heathery
Free transport idea, I believe is to make more people use Public transport instead of there cars

Most Scottish people want to go back to how things were, so there want big government and state run companies
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Barcy, please, refrain from acting as Voice of Scotland. Just as there is no single identity for Middle England, I'd like to hold onto the belief that we have just a smidgen of plurality up here.

And Chie, stop with the psychological profiling. Christ, it's like when Pamela Stephenson pretends to be a therapist.

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Chie wrote:Pffft. That just about sums up the far left - they're like a relentless bunch of incessantly whinging children. They'd rather everyone was equally miserable if it meant everyone was equal.

Anyway, David Cameron believes in the core Conservative principles of small government, self-determination, free enterprise, pragmatism, saving money instead of getting into debt and so on and so forth so he'll do.
You know, in the last couple of weeks I would say the most whinging and misery has come squarely from you chie. I can barely recall when I read such unhappiness in a young persons musings.

You can misrepresent those with left wing leanings until you're blue in the face - but just because you say something doesn't make it so.

I don't think the wealthiest should gain tax credits for their children particularly. They could argue of course that they've paid into the system and expect the same benefits as the less well off. But then I don't agree with tory policy that married couples should gain tax breaks simply because they decide to couple up. More than 50% of marriages in this country end in divorce - so what's the point of this?

In both the cases above, I think there should be a fair approach to things.

Yes chie - FAIR. That's not something to be sneered at, is it? You know what the opposite of "fair" is? Quite why you would sit there and say that the alternative to a fair society is better - well, that just makes my head spin.

Barcode - you really mustn't express your opinions as if all of Scotland are on the same page. We're a broad church. I have no particular wish for nationalised industries (with a couple of exceptions), and the idea of "large Government" doesn't appeal when you put it like that.
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I dont want anything nationalised industries back either, its just people WANT job back, and well the last time we had full employment was with the nationalised industries.
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barcode wrote:I dont want anything nationalised industries back either, its just people WANT job back, and well the last time we had full employment was with the nationalised industries.
That's rather specious reasoning.

Read this: http://www.labour-history.org.uk/suppor ... oyment.pdf

We had high levels of employment over the term of Labour - and then we had a global economic meltdown.

How well we get through the recovery depends on who is elected - and employment levels hinge upon that.
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I like the fact that the press has decided they're bored of calling Nick Clegg Churchill and are now deciding to uncover every single fact about him. I wonder if others like me will be turned off from parties who try to turn this to their advantage. I don't think they would because Nick Clegg himself is clearly popular and to attack him would be suicide - hence the very pedestrian statement such as "Nick Clegg has questions to answer" coming from the main parties.
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