There an election this year.....

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barcode wrote: Sat 06 Jul, 2024 14.39 So what did everyone think of that election? I was surprised when the exit poll appear, it proved what I was thinking Labour wouldn't get beyond 1997 result.

I have to wonder why So many polls were thinking labour would get 450 and the Tories would get 80 odd seats. Lib dems could have gotten to 80 as some of the tory/LB wins were in the 10-100s.

Did the Tories "super Majority" disenfranchise people to come out to vote thus the missing 8% of turnout never come out because they were like will Labour won?
not massively surprised by Labour winning, but the scale of the Conservatives defeat I was - especially considering their losses (or near losses) in safe seats that have been conservative for decades and the scale of the swing.

It will be interesting to see how things unfold in the next few weeks and months for sure.
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Was slightly surprised that Devizes went to the Lib Dems, after being a safe Conservative seat for almost 80 years, since 1945.
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Yep - Liz Truss's seat here in Norfolk too - apparently she got a fair bit of stick when she was out canvassing - I live a bit far out in no mans land for her to pay me a visit but I would have liked to have spoken to her- not to be abusive, but to genuinely challenge her on why she had never really done anything at all for the area, only really being more visible since she resigned as prime minister and knew her political career was on the way out.
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barcode wrote: Sat 06 Jul, 2024 14.39 So what did everyone think of that election? I was surprised when the exit poll appear, it proved what I was thinking Labour wouldn't get beyond 1997 result.

I have to wonder why So many polls were thinking labour would get 450 and the Tories would get 80 odd seats. Lib dems could have gotten to 80 as some of the tory/LB wins were in the 10-100s.

Did the Tories "super Majority" disenfranchise people to come out to vote thus the missing 8% of turnout never come out because they were like will Labour won?
I think part of the problem is that while people really disliked the Tories, they didn't like Labour much, and I think that Reform was thought to take more of the Tory vote than they did (And they did take a lot out of the Tories). In reality, the Reform vote took quite a bit from Labour too, resulting in relatively small swings to Labour. In some seats, Labour vote share was down, and they still won
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I thought it was a foregone conclusion and so boring apart from Reform. The Daily Sceptic's website calls it a "meh-jority" and I think that's the case. I got the impression that many voters simply couldn't bothered to vote which I think is wrong because the ability to vote is something many gave their lives for.
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Some of the polls we got along the way were way off, they probably shouldn’t really get the coverage they do

Some had Labour with ludicrous 500+ seats, some had the Tories on like 50 seats, Lib Dems as the official opposition and didn’t one even have Reform in second place?

Obviously Labour got a landslide but the Tories are still firmly the second biggest party and in triple digits so there is no change to the convention that Labour and Conservatives are always the biggest two parties.

I wonder if some of them have biased methodology to drive the narrative a certain way?
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I've not seen any detailed analysis of this yet, but in my constituency (and a random sample of other London seats I've looked at) it seems that the Greens were the protest voice of choice - miles behind Labour but comfortably ahead of anyone else. The exceptions seem to be the ones where there were strong local independents standing. Not a bad showing given I didn't see any of their campaigning.

I saw something about the Lib Dems coming second in 27 seats, and winning 71, which I think shows they've got very good at targetting their resources.
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It seems the Greens come second in nearly 40 seats mainly around Bristol, London and around Liverpool to Yorkshire area.

It strange that places with a lower turnout seem to be areas which rejected the SNP or reform did rather well.
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Have to say, it’s rather nice having a PM who seems to be using common sense, ministers being appointed because they’re experts and not to appease a section of the party, and talk of country before party. Early days but I hope this continues.
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I am across this in my YouTube feed



Old enough to remember a few of them. Quite interesting to see how these shows have evolved over the years
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