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Re: Decision '17

Posted: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 21.32
by Finn
WillPS wrote: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 19.22
Square Eyes wrote: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 17.55 An opposition not wanting an election ? They'd lose (even more) credibility.
And in any case utterly futile as Theresa May could 'win' a vote of no confidence in her own government with a simple majority.
Doubt it. To call an election under the Fixed Terms Act needs a 2/3rd majority.

Re: Decision '17

Posted: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 21.49
by WillPS
Neil DG wrote: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 21.32
WillPS wrote: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 19.22
Square Eyes wrote: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 17.55 An opposition not wanting an election ? They'd lose (even more) credibility.
And in any case utterly futile as Theresa May could 'win' a vote of no confidence in her own government with a simple majority.
Doubt it. To call an election under the Fixed Terms Act needs a 2/3rd majority.
A vote of no confidence requires a simple majority of 51%, and was not affected by the Fixed-term Parliaments Act.

Re: Decision '17

Posted: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 22.47
by barcode
I've looked at the Brexit map V the last election and Lib dems could win back at least 10 seats, but their power base around the old TSW area is no longer there. I think its possible for three in Devon, and 2 more around Bath and Bristol and some more in London.

But the Lib dems must be drinking something, this alone will not get them lots of seats and I think this could kill them off aswell as remain party.

Re: Decision '17

Posted: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 23.05
by all new Phil
Part of me thinks Corbyn will still try and cling onto his leadership following his inevitably huge defeat.

I don't think there'll be any sort of upset or shock result to this. May is doing a decent enough job and seems to have a wider appeal than her party has. The prediction I saw earlier had Tories gaining around 40 seats and Labour losing about the same. I reckon it'll all be rather boring really.

Re: Decision '17

Posted: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 23.22
by WillPS
all new Phil wrote: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 23.05 Part of me thinks Corbyn will still try and cling onto his leadership following his inevitably huge defeat.

I don't think there'll be any sort of upset or shock result to this. May is doing a decent enough job and seems to have a wider appeal than her party has. The prediction I saw earlier had Tories gaining around 40 seats and Labour losing about the same. I reckon it'll all be rather boring really.
I'm pretty much resigned to this too. I hope I'm wrong, as I have been in pretty much every election.

Re: Decision '17

Posted: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 23.31
by Alexia
June 9th. Labour have 120 seats. Lib Dems have 20. SNP have 59. Tories have 450.

But the real fightback will start there....

Re: Decision '17

Posted: Wed 19 Apr, 2017 08.00
by bilky asko
Tim Farron has got off to a great start by exposing himself as pretty illiberal as well as anti-democratic: he won't give a straight answer as to whether homosexuality is a sin, at the fourth time of asking.

Perhaps this Lib Dem comeback won't be too impressive...

Re: Decision '17

Posted: Wed 19 Apr, 2017 10.07
by barcode
Alexia wrote: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 23.31 June 9th. Labour have 120 seats. Lib Dems have 20. SNP have 59. Tories have 450.

But the real fightback will start there....
To be fair the tories will most likely keep there Scottish seat, and Edinburgh south might stay with labour, Lib dems after that court case over the island that might be where some trouble is, I say SNP 49 -56.

Re: Decision '17

Posted: Wed 19 Apr, 2017 13.24
by Alexia
Rape clause fallout may still hurt Ruth.

No doubt we will see some form of Scottish debate where Kezia will be....well, Kezia.

Re: Decision '17

Posted: Wed 19 Apr, 2017 20.05
by Finn
WillPS wrote: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 21.49
Neil DG wrote: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 21.32
WillPS wrote: Tue 18 Apr, 2017 19.22

And in any case utterly futile as Theresa May could 'win' a vote of no confidence in her own government with a simple majority.
Doubt it. To call an election under the Fixed Terms Act needs a 2/3rd majority.
A vote of no confidence requires a simple majority of 51%, and was not affected by the Fixed-term Parliaments Act.
Sorry, misread your post.

Although the 'no confidence' route was never going to be used this time.

Re: Decision '17

Posted: Wed 19 Apr, 2017 20.07
by Finn
bilky asko wrote: Wed 19 Apr, 2017 08.00 Tim Farron has got off to a great start by exposing himself as pretty illiberal as well as anti-democratic: he won't give a straight answer as to whether homosexuality is a sin, at the fourth time of asking.

Perhaps this Lib Dem comeback won't be too impressive...
The fact is that his voting record shows a good support for equal rights, including for the LGBT+ community.

There is a huge difference between a person's own religious beliefs and their liberal actions in this case.