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Smoking bans.
Posted: Sun 15 Apr, 2007 23.01
by Ronnie Rowlands
so, the smoking ban has finally hit Wales. Smoking is banned in all public places in Wales. And it is already driving me nuts! I don't visit pubs often, it's only every Saturday afternoon that I go to one, for my lunch. and now, all of these nancy, "up-their-own-arse" people, usually women, who used to go into pubs and say things like "Oh, oh, phah phah phah! oh, (fake coughing, skrewing up their faces in disgust) oh your smoke. phah, please, take your smoke elsewhere. I don't want to breath in your filthy air you scum. you're killing me. I can't breath" have started bringing in their small children *shudders* into pubs for food.
I am one of those people who hates children. And now, every week, I have to put up with little children, eating with their hands, getting sauce all over their faces, screaming, dribbling, and disrupting everything. I pay about £7 for my lunch there, and I don't want to be put off this lovely food by looking at children who enjoy mixing snot in their gravy. why aren't no smoking zones good enough for them? If they "can't breath," go to the smoke free zones, or go home, and stop ruining everyone's free-will.
this is just another pointless ban, and what's more, they've started rubbing it in out faces, by putting ashtrays on tables, but leaving a sign saying "this is not an ashtray, general waste only." Yeah, what sort of "general waste" am I going to put into a vessel that could only possibly function as an ashtray?
Anyway, everyone discuss the smoking bans, I have several other topics that I will be bringing up round here in due course.
Re: Smoking bans.
Posted: Sun 15 Apr, 2007 23.04
by Sput
Ronnie Rowlands wrote:why aren't no smoking zones good enough for them?
Because they're not magic and they don't stop Entropy increasing.
Ronnie Rowlands wrote: If they "can't breath," go to the smoke free zones, or go home, and stop ruining everyone's free-will.
Your free will ends where my nose begins.
A word of advice: arbitrary topics don't really work here - as we've seen with TOTW, or whatever it was, a couple of weeks ago.
Re: Smoking bans.
Posted: Sun 15 Apr, 2007 23.06
by Johnny
Ronnie Rowlands wrote:
this is just another pointless ban, and what's more, they've started rubbing it in out faces, by putting ashtrays on tables, but leaving a sign saying "this is not an ashtray, general waste only." Yeah, what sort of "general waste" am I going to put into a vessel that could only possibly function as an ashtray?
That's for use if you get caught short and do what to use the pub toilets
To be honest I think the ban is a bit hypocritical, how can you ban something from almost anywhere but still sell it?
I'm not a smoker and in an ideal world smokign wouldn't exist or wouldn't harm people at least, but I think all these new figures & percentages they have suddenly bought out are crap, how comes these didn't come out sooner, it's so convienet (sp) that they found out about these figures just before the ban
Posted: Sun 15 Apr, 2007 23.08
by Ronnie Rowlands
if the government really wanted the whole of the UK to quit, they'd just take them off the shelves, but they take a lot of tax of them, so they don't, instead, they put up the prices to "stop us from buying them." Don't listen to that crap. it's just another government ploy to ferret a bit more money out of us. people will just resort to importing them illegally. and that's going to fill up our prisons even more. the politicians probably enjoy a big fat cigar at the end of the hunt anyway.
Posted: Sun 15 Apr, 2007 23.15
by DAS
Ronnie Rowlands wrote:if the government really wanted the whole of the UK to quit, they'd just take them off the shelves, but they take a lot of tax of them, so they don't, instead, they put up the prices to "stop us from buying them." Don't listen to that crap. it's just another government ploy to ferret a bit more money out of us. people will just resort to importing them illegally. and that's going to fill up our prisons even more. the politicians probably enjoy a big fat cigar at the end of the hunt anyway.
Because of course taking cigarettes off the shelves one day won't lead to illegal buying.
Posted: Sun 15 Apr, 2007 23.17
by Gluben
Of course! We need a public children ban, immediately!
Posted: Sun 15 Apr, 2007 23.29
by Ronnie Rowlands
That's the first thing I would do if I was elected Prime Minister! Banning children in public places, they are a health hazard, as well as downright rude and cocky these days. You should see some of the 4-8 year olds in my street!
Posted: Sun 15 Apr, 2007 23.31
by Jamez
The fag-ban has been effect here in Wales for two weeks.
It's not really had much of an impact to be honest. If you're in a club or pub, just nip outside for a ciggy. Some clubs have now made arrangements for smokers by creating a special area outside.
Some of the wealthier establishments have even constructed an outdoor band-stand thingy like you see in parks. The club I visited last week even had mood-lighting and outdoor heaters. It certainly wasn't an unpleasant experience because there are other people to chat to, and there's no thumping music out there so you can have a normal conversation with new people!
I think the smoking ban is a good idea. I'm more than happy to go outside to light up. Even my non-smoking friends come outside with me - so it can't be that bad!
I hate smoky atmospheres anyway. Even as a smoker, the smell of other people's fag smoke wafting into my face is deeply unpleasant.
Posted: Sun 15 Apr, 2007 23.34
by Ronnie Rowlands
I suppose you have a point there. but I'm not sure how pleasant it would be for smokers if it was heavily raining outside, or windy so you couldn't even light the damn things.
Posted: Sun 15 Apr, 2007 23.39
by Jamez
Ronnie Rowlands wrote:I suppose you have a point there. but I'm not sure how pleasant it would be for smokers if it was heavily raining outside, or windy so you couldn't even light the damn things.
Very few smokers turn into quivering wrecks if they don't have a cigarette for a couple of hours!

Posted: Mon 16 Apr, 2007 00.01
by Johnny
Jamez wrote:The fag-ban has been effect here in Wales for two weeks.
It's not really had much of an impact to be honest. If you're in a club or pub, just nip outside for a ciggy. Some clubs have now made arrangements for smokers by creating a special area outside.
Some of the wealthier establishments have even constructed an outdoor band-stand thingy like you see in parks. The club I visited last week even had mood-lighting and outdoor heaters. It certainly wasn't an unpleasant experience because there are other people to chat to, and there's no thumping music out there so you can have a normal conversation with new people!
I think the smoking ban is a good idea. I'm more than happy to go outside to light up. Even my non-smoking friends come outside with me - so it can't be that bad!
I hate smoky atmospheres anyway. Even as a smoker, the smell of other people's fag smoke wafting into my face is deeply unpleasant.
Westminster Council is even trying to ban that, they want to stop it altogether, but then again they are a law to their own.
I'm no pro smoker or anti smoker but I just feel that they are doing it in a shitty way, suddenly the risks have skyrocketed, conveniently once they said a ban was to be introduced