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Vista hassle

Posted: Thu 29 Mar, 2007 12.12
by cdd
Hi all,
I'm having awful trouble with Vista - I connect to the internet, a draytek router, via ethernet cable; the internet loads but only displays some web sites - bbc.co.uk displays for example, while google.co.uk does not. On my other xp machine it worked fine, and on my vista machine before upgrading all was fine too. My computer for vista is Vista Capable, and the upgrade advisor found no problems. I have tried both IE and Firefox and encounter the same error. Pinging hosts produces the same; success for some, fail for others, but always the same ones that succeed and fail. I have tried all sorts, even making my vista machine a DMZ host! Any ideas!!?
Chris

Posted: Thu 29 Mar, 2007 13.08
by James Martin
But Metropol displays? Bugger.

Posted: Thu 29 Mar, 2007 15.56
by cdd
nodnirG kraM wrote:Is it just as simple as your network IP settings or your router blocking the sites you're having trouble visiting? Sounds more likely to be this if both IE and Firefox are borking.
Hmm - well Vista is set up on the default settings, which is I assume 'acquire IP by DHCP'. With regards to the sites I have trouble visiting, they are (consistently) Google, Microsoft.com, Live.com and no doubt countless of others. Sites I can visit fine are e.g. msn.com, metropol247.co.uk, bbc.co.uk etc.
Like I say, it all works absolutely fine from another machine on the network running XP. I take it from your reply that you're not having any problem of this nature?
Could my router be too old or something?

Posted: Thu 29 Mar, 2007 16.24
by cdd
nodnirG kraM wrote:As soon as I plugged into my router it connected perfectly - I only had problems with the 64 bit edition not recognising my internal or dongle WiFi cards. As the router's external it makes no difference to my Vista. Where are the sites you can access hosted? Perhaps you're IP blocked or something for US or UK sites.
Seems to be a whole range of different sites that don't work - based in all sorts of places. The sites that don't work do sort of load up - the IE progress bar goes about a quarter of the way across very slowly, then gives Page Cannot Be Displayed.
My thoughts were e.g. the IPv6 stuff that Vista has. Or perhaps Vista has trouble communicating with the router properly. After all, if it were the router or ISP, surely it wouldn't work on other computers too? It's odd, in any case.

Posted: Thu 29 Mar, 2007 21.17
by Neil Jones
cdd wrote:My thoughts were e.g. the IPv6 stuff that Vista has. Or perhaps Vista has trouble communicating with the router properly. After all, if it were the router or ISP, surely it wouldn't work on other computers too? It's odd, in any case.
Vista has no issues with routers and what not, and out of the box its DHCP.
However, general web browsing in Vista is very slow at the best of times I've found. The built-in Windows Defender and IE7 seem to be part of the cause, in addition to all the other bundled stuff that MS thought was a good idea to fire up every time you turn Vista on.

It might be worth turning off the Phishing Filter in IE7 under Vista, as if Microsoft is under heavy load from lots of people with IE7 Phishing Filters up and running, the browser decides it won't do anything until it can check your intended site, and then everything just times out and nothing gets resolved.

Posted: Fri 30 Mar, 2007 00.02
by Sput
It's not screwed with your MTU or duplex settings for the NICs has it? The problem you're describing usually stems from a bad MTU value, although that is usually when it's set wrong in the router. Nonetheless it might be worth checking.