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4:3 and 16:9 in Movie Maker

Posted: Sun 10 Dec, 2006 17.09
by Gluben
OK, I have a clip in 4:3 that I want to add to a load of other clips in 16:9, but I can't change the settings for individual clips, only the whole movie, so either the whole movie is 4:3 or the single clip is skewed. Is there a solution?

Posted: Sun 10 Dec, 2006 17.14
by Sput
Black gaffer tape?

Posted: Sun 10 Dec, 2006 21.07
by Gluben
Afraid I haven't got any. Any other ideas?

Posted: Sun 10 Dec, 2006 23.58
by Gavin Scott
I'll send you a roll if you really want.

The solution, however, is to find yourself a torrent site and download Adobe Premiere Pro 2*. As with any movie maker, you'll need to pick one aspect ratio and stick with it - but at least you can resize or crop the files which don't meet your AR choice.

* You should only do this to evaluate whether you want to spend the couple of hundred quid before you buy.

Posted: Wed 13 Dec, 2006 17.43
by Gluben
I've downloaded VirtualDub, but is there a way to get rid of the black widescreen bars? It's in 4:3 but if I put it into 16:9, it looks stretched. I want it to look unstretched at 16:9 if that makes sense.

Sorry, it's hard to describe really. Go to this link to see it in comparison with the other clips. The ones that aren't right are 3 and 4.

Posted: Wed 13 Dec, 2006 23.05
by Rob Del Monte
when you say 'widescreen bars', are you reffering to letterbox bars on everything you capture, or just on a specific file?

Thinking about this logically, without much knowledge of the programme you're using . . .:

If it is with everything you capture:

Then what I think is happening is that the device you are capturing from is set to 4:3 mode. Therefor, if it is reading a wide screen image, then it will turns it into a 4:3 image, by adding bars. Then when it sends it to your computer, by now it is a 4:3 image (a widescreen image with bars) To it, it is no different to any other 4:3 image. when u set your computer to widescreen mode, your computer is just playing a 4:3 image made to fit into a wide screen. Your computer won't know that it is actually a widescreen image with bars. It won't know to just focus on the dynamic part of the image, and shove-off the bars.

If this is the case, then I'm guessing that you need to change the settings on the device you are capturing from, when you use it to send things to your computer, in that case, it is the device you are capturing from that is wrong - it thinks it is sending to a 4:3 device.

If it is just with a specific file, then I'm guessing that the bars are part of the file information - and not something the programme adds, when it interprets the file - and will need removing (cropping) from the file. I don't know if that can be done.

I AM ONLY THINK LOGICALLY, SO IF i AM WRONG, I APPOLOGISE.

Posted: Thu 14 Dec, 2006 00.02
by Pete
shut up, cunt.

Posted: Thu 14 Dec, 2006 00.06
by Gluben
Rob Del Monte wrote:when you say 'widescreen bars', are you reffering to letterbox bars on everything you capture, or just on a specific file?

Thinking about this logically, without much knowledge of the programme you're using . . .:

If it is with everything you capture:

Then what I think is happening is that the device you are capturing from is set to 4:3 mode. Therefor, if it is reading a wide screen image, then it will turns it into a 4:3 image, by adding bars. Then when it sends it to your computer, by now it is a 4:3 image (a widescreen image with bars) To it, it is no different to any other 4:3 image. when u set your computer to widescreen mode, your computer is just playing a 4:3 image made to fit into a wide screen. Your computer won't know that it is actually a widescreen image with bars. It won't know to just focus on the dynamic part of the image, and shove-off the bars.

If this is the case, then I'm guessing that you need to change the settings on the device you are capturing from, when you use it to send things to your computer, in that case, it is the device you are capturing from that is wrong - it thinks it is sending to a 4:3 device.

If it is just with a specific file, then I'm guessing that the bars are part of the file information - and not something the programme adds, when it interprets the file - and will need removing (cropping) from the file. I don't know if that can be done.

I AM ONLY THINK LOGICALLY, SO IF i AM WRONG, I APPOLOGISE.
I didn't capture it, it was uploaded to some media site and I downloaded it from there, and it was just like that. The person who uploaded it said they don't know why it went differently to the rest, and couldn't upload it again.

Posted: Thu 14 Dec, 2006 00.07
by James H
Rob Del Monte wrote:I AM ONLY THINK LOGICALLY, SO IF i AM WRONG, I APPOLOGISE.
I AM ONLY THINK LOGICALLY TOO

I AM THINKS YOU AMS A TWAT

Posted: Thu 14 Dec, 2006 21.16
by Sput
James H wrote:
Rob Del Monte wrote:I AM ONLY THINK LOGICALLY, SO IF i AM WRONG, I APPOLOGISE.
I AM ONLY THINK LOGICALLY TOO

I AM THINKS YOU AMS A TWAT
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Posted: Thu 14 Dec, 2006 21.17
by Pete
Sput wrote:
James H wrote:
Rob Del Monte wrote:I AM ONLY THINK LOGICALLY, SO IF i AM WRONG, I APPOLOGISE.
I AM ONLY THINK LOGICALLY TOO

I AM THINKS YOU AMS A TWAT
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how efficient - it covers both their posts