cdd wrote:Mark, are you completely blind to every word I write?
If you'd taken the liberty to look at page 2 of your aptly-named thread you'd have seen my statement that the wonderful idea of faxing back a looped message was hypothetical.
That's now how it read at the time, Chris, so I have to suspect that you changed it.
As I remember it correctly, you basically came into a thread about a problem I was having with mouseover image links and told me that I and my customers were immoral huxters. Furthermore, that we should only be allowed to market if you, or your appointed representatives, thought that our product or service was sufficiently original and you deemed it would be good enough to sell itself without marketing!
cdd wrote:And I believe I have "targeted" 0800 numbers, namely 0800 123456, a viscious number-reselling firm called the "Golden Number Company" (I wonder if someone's bought it yet?)... you appear to be forgetting that it costs nothing to set your computer up to call it for 20 seconds each minute.
Pray, what did this company do that was so bad that you felt you had to steal money from it every 20 seconds?
Put a leaflet through your door? The scoundrels.
cdd wrote:Declaiming unsolicited marketing (OK, targeted marketing) to be part of business is ever so slightly asinine. Distance marketing is the "dark side" of business, and it's what got Microsoft where they are today. But of course, the world of business isn't moral, is it? From what I've noticed any marketing discussion with you seems to crash down in flames due to your obvious bias on the side of the marketer. It's like trying to maintain a discussion about the Labour party with the Conservatives.
You are correct. The world of business is not particularly moral. It is riddled with one-up-manship and self-interest. Exactly how is that different from the public sector, government or any field of human activity?
However, to portray us as worse is scandalous. We're not the organisations that can throw you into prison for not paying us. We're not the ones with the legal right to enter property and confiscate goods. We're not the ones that force you to be taxed on where you live, what you earn and virtually every product or service you buy.
You have to choose us from a field containing often hundreds of competitors.
Of course I am biased towards marketing. I have seen the positive influences it has for customers. I have seen how small companies starting with us have, with our help in part, grown into giants. Far faster than we have. And every single purchase made from our customers was voluntary.
These risks were taken by men who have the balls you so obviously lack. They risked their own time and money to provide a better and/or cheaper service. And you blankly dismiss them as 'immoral'. What a prat.
Without businesspeople, without sales and marketing, the country would grind to a halt. No taxes would exist, no ITV stations, the internet would not exist as it does today, no operations would be performed, no children would be educated.
cdd wrote:Anyway, congratulations, as you have succeeded in sending a thread totally off-topic... not that the original subject matter was any better!
Like you hijacked my thread on web design?
You plan to run the world from the bedroom in your parents' house. Let the grown-ups get on with life.
