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Re: Conservatives
Posted: Tue 06 Apr, 2010 21.00
by James H
Gavin Scott wrote:James, refrain from telling people to piss off until they really get your goat. Its early days yet.
Sorry, it's just I can see the downside now of voting Conservative, and it means 5 more years of barcode's shit posters...
Re: Conservatives
Posted: Tue 06 Apr, 2010 21.01
by James H
Beep wrote:James H wrote:Pure tosh and conjecture, borrowed from various other sources. Well done, Beep, for showing your age and mentality.
Kindly show me where I have borrowed this from.
Particularly your little "Dave" shot, it seems from every copy of the Daily Mail ever.
Re: Conservatives
Posted: Tue 06 Apr, 2010 21.06
by barcode
James H wrote:Gavin Scott wrote:James, refrain from telling people to piss off until they really get your goat. Its early days yet.
Sorry, it's just I can see the downside now of voting Conservative, and it means 5 more years of barcode's shit posters...
Strangle it that was the WHOLE point of this thread in the first place, but hey oh. why would I waste my time for the next 5 years? on top of that I tried to stop taking the piss and showed a more positive poster.
I can see where you coming you dislike them, and im fine with that, Vote if you wish. It just I probably dislike the Tories as much as you dislike labour.
Re: Conservatives
Posted: Tue 06 Apr, 2010 21.07
by Gavin Scott
James H wrote:Beep wrote:James H wrote:Pure tosh and conjecture, borrowed from various other sources. Well done, Beep, for showing your age and mentality.
Kindly show me where I have borrowed this from.
Particularly your little "Dave" shot, it seems from every copy of the Daily Mail ever.
The whole "Dave" persona (largely masterminded by himself, I might add) is widely poked fun at by the usual lefty comedians and performers*. Remember his Desert Island Discs? *chortle*
So - not really something you can pin at the newspapers or any one member here.
* Which you probably know from your studies at that fine school
Re: Conservatives
Posted: Tue 06 Apr, 2010 21.09
by Beep
James H wrote:Beep wrote:James H wrote:Pure tosh and conjecture, borrowed from various other sources. Well done, Beep, for showing your age and mentality.
Kindly show me where I have borrowed this from.
Particularly your little "Dave" shot, it seems from every copy of the Daily Mail ever.
Oh, the "Dave" remark was indeed done to death by everyone, not just the Daily Mail, I've just used it again.
But my post is a breakdown of the Tories in an easy to understand chunk, taken from a variety of sources such as a 40 year old, a 50 year old and a 55 year old, all 3 of which have lived through Conservative government.
How old are you James? (as in age wise, e.g. 18-24) I'm just curious to see whether you have lived (as an adult) through a Conservative government.
and Barcode, Whilst I appreciate your ideas, please don't express them in poster form.
Re: Conservatives
Posted: Tue 06 Apr, 2010 21.11
by James H
Gavin Scott wrote:James H wrote:Beep wrote:
Kindly show me where I have borrowed this from.
Particularly your little "Dave" shot, it seems from every copy of the Daily Mail ever.
The whole "Dave" persona (largely masterminded by himself, I might add) is widely poked fun at by the usual lefty comedians and performers*. Remember his Desert Island Discs? *chortle*
So - not really something you can pin at the newspapers or any one member here.
* Which you probably know from your studies at that fine school
I'm aware of that, but it seems a particularly cheap shot. People often mimick Cameron for having no policies, and then when policies come about, they resort back to the "Dave" argument. He can't win.
Which fine school? Can't tell if my sarcasm detector's working....
Re: Conservatives
Posted: Tue 06 Apr, 2010 21.16
by Gavin Scott
James H wrote:Gavin Scott wrote:The whole "Dave" persona (largely masterminded by himself, I might add) is widely poked fun at by the usual lefty comedians and performers*. Remember his Desert Island Discs? *chortle*
So - not really something you can pin at the newspapers or any one member here.
* Which you probably know from your studies at that fine school
I'm aware of that, but it seems a particularly cheap shot. People often mimick Cameron for having no policies, and then when policies come about, they resort back to the "Dave" argument. He can't win.
Which fine school? Can't tell if my sarcasm detector's working....
How many schools are you attending with other performers?!
But your suggestion is that anyone vociferously opposed to the tories has little or flimsy arguments to make about his background, ethos and motivation.
I assure you that's not the case.
Dave
can win - but for the love of god he really ought not to.
Re: Conservatives
Posted: Tue 06 Apr, 2010 21.33
by barcode
Dave? To win out right you mean, for David to get majority of 0 he needs to be ahead of 9.5%
lab 30.5,
Tories got 40.0
Lib 19.1
other 10.2
Tory party has never got the swings which are needed to win this election in its history, only party to get the swings needed are labour twice, strangely
Re: Conservatives
Posted: Wed 07 Apr, 2010 07.01
by Chie
As an aside - didn't you say you wouldn't pay for a filling as you thought you were being ripped off? That sums up cutting off one's nose to spite one's face, I would have said.
No, that's an example of being sensible and making sure people don't walk all over you because they think they can. Which is a problem I face quite often, as you can probably imagine.
The question about Tories favouring those with money is entirely valid. Tax breaks for the wealthy, inheritance tax cuts for the super rich - and so it goes on. The low paid stay low paid (abolition of minimum wage) and the middle income folk get squeezed.
Who employs people, Gavin? Who creates jobs? Who runs the economy?
Another saying springs to mind here. It's 'don't bite the hand that feeds you'.
We want rich business people to stay in this country not emigrate to somewhere where they and their business won't be taxed to the eyeballs.
Beep wrote:Chie, are you employed? Are you paid above £9 an hour? if neither of those apply to you, the Tories can't help you. At the end of the day, the Tories are just looking to keep the super rich, super rich. They can promise what they want, but jobs won't be made, the economy won't recover and the sheep that vote for them will end up poor and with no money or jobs to feed their families, if you want to vote in a government that won't help you you just want to seem 'posh' (which is the only reason I can see), then fine, it's your mistake when you are homeless. I know I'm stating the obvious, but some people clearly don't understand David (sorry 'Dave') Cameron's agenda.
Please don't talk down to me Beep, you're not even old enough to vote.
Go away and do something constructive.
Re: Conservatives
Posted: Wed 07 Apr, 2010 07.55
by Sput
James H wrote:Forgive me for being thick, but how do we avoid the transition period?
by not immediately withdrawing the current measures before things firm up! It's not like we can't withstand this level of national debt for a little while longer, particularly when the share value of banks is slowly recovering. I don't see why the Tories are talking about pulling the plug so quickly after getting in.
Re: Conservatives
Posted: Wed 07 Apr, 2010 08.01
by Beep
Chie wrote:
Beep wrote:Chie, are you employed? Are you paid above £9 an hour? if neither of those apply to you, the Tories can't help you. At the end of the day, the Tories are just looking to keep the super rich, super rich. They can promise what they want, but jobs won't be made, the economy won't recover and the sheep that vote for them will end up poor and with no money or jobs to feed their families, if you want to vote in a government that won't help you you just want to seem 'posh' (which is the only reason I can see), then fine, it's your mistake when you are homeless. I know I'm stating the obvious, but some people clearly don't understand David (sorry 'Dave') Cameron's agenda.
Please don't talk down to me Beep, you're not even old enough to vote.
Firstly, I'm not talking down to you, the only way I can see you getting upset is if you are unemployed and you just want to appear posh, and I've hit the nail on the head. Being old enough to vote is neither here nor there, because in 2 years, I can vote. I understand politics and know about Dave's agenda. He doesn't really care about poorer people, he just cares about his roots.