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bilky asko wrote:

Martin Phillp wrote:

jonathan wrote:
Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland cope.

And M&S across the UK where it's a simple option of selecting how many bags you've used which is debited accordingly.

And where nearly everyone selects "small bag, no charge".

You'd end up with a lot more dodging of bag charges, never mind the delay caused by using your own bags. And, because the self-service machines require bagging areas attached, you'll get people blocking up the tills as they're bagging up.

Oh my, that sounds like chaos. No supermarket will ever install these.

bilky asko wrote:

Martin Phillp wrote:

jonathan wrote:
Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland cope.

And M&S across the UK where it's a simple option of selecting how many bags you've used which is debited accordingly.

And where nearly everyone selects "small bag, no charge".

You'd end up with a lot more dodging of bag charges, never mind the delay caused by using your own bags. And, because the self-service machines require bagging areas attached, you'll get people blocking up the tills as they're bagging up.

In Wales, most supermarkets just don't have any bags out at all. That sorts it out pretty nicely.

all new Phil wrote:Oh my, that sounds like chaos. No supermarket will ever install these.

In comparison to what they have now, it's far inferior in terms of speed and efficiency. They work in other types of supermarket because their flow is different.

They could work if adapted significantly - strictly baskets only, no bags (as WillPS suggested). Even then, would it be faster than what they do now? They'd still need to be constantly manned.

On a slightly related note, the last time I went to ASDA in York, all the traditional tills had been replaced with the convertible FastLane tills (alongside the spinning wheel of doom tills and the normal self-service tills). The vast majority of these were unmanned, and I heard a few people complaining about how slow things had become since they'd got rid of the traditional tills.

The bag holders have simply been unscrewed and removed from most self scans. Leaves a much bigger packing space. You have to go and ask the checkout assistant for a bag.

Like this

WillPS wrote:

bilky asko wrote:[

You'd end up with a lot more dodging of bag charges, never mind the delay caused by using your own bags. And, because the self-service machines require bagging areas attached, you'll get people blocking up the tills as they're bagging up.

I had to ask for a chargeable bag at M&S in Epsom.

Pete wrote:You have to go and ask the checkout assistant for a bag.Like this

THANK YOU! Yes, as I've mentioned, this is the bit I like least about the change. The empty bagging area in most supermarket self checkout areas now (I notice some Sainsbury's have left the bags in place though). It's not the asking the assistant I really mind, but the hassle of the interaction. The till doesn't know you forgot your bags, or that you called in at short notice, so you have to catch the assistant's eye instead of relying on the till light flashing. In Asda they seem to also like offering you a single bag even when you've clearly got two bags worth of shopping, and you need to put your hand up and wait to ask for another. We're all grown-ups, and I can be trusted to declare my bag use at the end of the transaction - just let me get my hands on one or two.

I went into my local Tesco last night, and a couple of the fridges had broken down. Each fridge had an A4 photocopied notice on the usual red and yellow paper, saying that the usual items could be retrieved from round the back on request: probably a total of 10 lines on the sheet.

One of the local* village idiots was loudly complaining:

"Where are all the items? Why haven't they put them in another fridge? I can't believe this!"

This was despite her standing directly in front of said sign. The moral of the story, I suppose, is that you can't make a sign too simple or too obvious.

As I walked off, she proceeded to ask possibly the suavest supermarket employee I've ever seen what the problem was.

*I felt the need to specify this because the usual contingent of Scottish holidaymakers are here. I unfortunately recognised the person involved.

Is pricing done at the store level as I was overcharged this week?

Morrisons confirmed to me on social media that the product was 18p, but the self-checkout had it at 35p.

Martin Phillp wrote:Is pricing done at the store level as I was overcharged this week?

Morrisons confirmed to me on social media that the product was 18p, but the self-checkout had it at 35p.

Morrisons pricing was always set at a national level, excepting Morrisons Local (for offers only, I think?) and Morrisons Gibraltar. What was the item, may I ask?

bilky asko wrote:

Martin Phillp wrote:Is pricing done at the store level as I was overcharged this week?

Morrisons confirmed to me on social media that the product was 18p, but the self-checkout had it at 35p.

Morrisons pricing was always set at a national level, excepting Morrisons Local (for offers only, I think?) and Morrisons Gibraltar. What was the item, may I ask?

M Shopper Jotter.

bilky asko wrote:

Martin Phillp wrote:Is pricing done at the store level as I was overcharged this week?

Morrisons confirmed to me on social media that the product was 18p, but the self-checkout had it at 35p.

Morrisons pricing was always set at a national level, excepting Morrisons Local (for offers only, I think?) and Morrisons Gibraltar. What was the item, may I ask?

I think lines can be reduced at a store level (although not by the store) when they are discontinued locally.