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Re: Scottish independence

Posted: Tue 28 Jan, 2014 21.58
by martindtanderson
When it comes to choosing between the new, unknown, and uncertain - and the status quo. Typically people will vote for the devil they know.

Re: Scottish independence

Posted: Tue 28 Jan, 2014 23.34
by Sput
Gavin Scott wrote:Are you a Better Together supporter as facebook suggests you are?

Your name keeps getting flung at me in the sponsored ads.
How's that working?

Re: Scottish independence

Posted: Wed 29 Jan, 2014 09.36
by Gavin Scott
Not well.

Re: Scottish independence

Posted: Wed 29 Jan, 2014 22.47
by DVB Cornwall
As I've said on some Facebook posts on the subject. The sensible solution has to be to go for Independence when offered. Self Determination has been fought over many times. To me it's a question of being 'Frit' if the Scottish people reject the offer.

Simply take it and exploit it. The Czech Republic and Slovakia still remain friends after their mutually agreed split, and even the most hardened Nationalists are becoming more co-operative in the Former Yugoslavia.

One thought on the Currency issue. If the Scots even threatened to use the Euro the Rump UK administration would plead for Scotland to use Sterling. A Euro powered Scotland would be the most enormous backdoor for RUK wide common acceptance of the common currency, which some conveniently choose to forget Is much more powerful than Sterling has been since the Euro's birth.

Re: Scottish independence

Posted: Thu 30 Jan, 2014 20.48
by WillPS
DVB Cornwall wrote:The Czech Republic and Slovakia still remain friends after their mutually agreed split
This clearly isn't mutual.
DVB Cornwall wrote:One thought on the Currency issue. If the Scots even threatened to use the Euro the Rump UK administration would plead for Scotland to use Sterling. A Euro powered Scotland would be the most enormous backdoor for RUK wide common acceptance of the common currency, which some conveniently choose to forget Is much more powerful than Sterling has been since the Euro's birth.
LOL. As if Spain would allow that to happen. They'd be likely to make life difficult for Scotland in terms of joining the EU, let alone the Euro.

RUK? Rest of UK? For God's sake man stop using ambiguous acronyms.

That last sentence still makes no sense - what is more powerful than Sterling has been since the Euro's birth? The Euro? In what terms?

Even the most hardened Euro-supporters (myself included) have had their confidence in the currency rocked in recent years.

Re: Scottish independence

Posted: Thu 30 Jan, 2014 21.11
by DVB Cornwall
Sterling has dropped by 25 Eurocents against the currency since the Euro was created, even with the troubles of the Common Currency. A devaluation of almost 18pct.

RUK ... Rump UK as used earlier in the piece.

The EU will accept the result of any referendum, and accept Scotland in. There's no way that the Commission regardless of Spanish internal difficulties, would want to lose such an enormous continental shelf from the Union, the effects would be significant on Fisheries and also on mineral resources.

Re: Scottish independence

Posted: Fri 31 Jan, 2014 00.34
by Whataday
If Scotland voted for independence, obviously there would be a long process of divorce. Fair enough, but we have been promised a referendum on Britain's membership of the EU. Should Scotland not have completely left us by the time of that referendum, would/should they be allowed to vote?

Re: Scottish independence

Posted: Fri 31 Jan, 2014 22.19
by Gavin Scott
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-25965703
An independent Scotland could expect to become a member of the European Union within 18 months of a yes vote, according to a senior EU negotiator. Graham Avery, the European Commission's honorary director general, said the UK government's position on Scotland in Europe was "perplexing" and "absurd".
LOL. As if Spain would allow that to happen. They'd be likely to make life difficult for Scotland in terms of joining the EU, let alone the Euro.
LOL. Absurd says it all.

Re: Scottish independence

Posted: Fri 31 Jan, 2014 22.57
by barcode
I do think its absurd that voting yes: And were going to just keep the queen and the pound and have the bank of England control stuff, If that the case maybe Mr should be looking towards Belgium.....

Re: Scottish independence

Posted: Tue 04 Feb, 2014 01.32
by Alexia
Latest polls x2

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/8609

Survation: Yes 32%, No 52%, DK 16% (First ever Scots poll so no comparison)

TNS: Yes 29% +2, No 41% (unchanged)

Re: Scottish independence

Posted: Thu 20 Feb, 2014 21.11
by Alexia
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/8636

TNS BRMB - Unchanged from last time ^^ (fieldwork completed before Osborne's diktat re the pound)

Survation - YES 38%, NO 47%, Don’t know 16% (however using a different weighting to their previous poll shown above which could result in a slightly more accurate result)