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Posted: Mon 25 Jul, 2005 02.28
by Fireboy
Without reading that novel above, perhaps you're just taking things just a wee bit too seriously...
Posted: Mon 25 Jul, 2005 02.34
by johnnyboy
Fireboy wrote:Without reading that novel above, perhaps you're just taking things just a wee bit too seriously...
It was a copy-and-paste from Matthew Parris, columnist on the Times.
Perhaps you aren't taking death on our streets a wee bit too seriously...
Posted: Mon 25 Jul, 2005 03.24
by Fireboy
johnnyboy wrote:Fireboy wrote:Without reading that novel above, perhaps you're just taking things just a wee bit too seriously...
It was a copy-and-paste from Matthew Parris, columnist on the Times.
Perhaps you aren't taking death on our streets a wee bit too seriously...
What about the rest... conspiracy theories etc.
Some people just get on with life.
Posted: Mon 25 Jul, 2005 09.07
by johnnyboy
Fireboy wrote:What about the rest... conspiracy theories etc.
Some people just get on with life.
The rest of what?
I do also have a life, and copying-and-pasting something from the Times doesn't provide evidence contrary to that. Or am I missing something?
Posted: Mon 25 Jul, 2005 09.54
by Pete
so long as his love affair with Apple isn't affected Adam won't mind however many people get murdered.
Posted: Mon 25 Jul, 2005 10.01
by tillyoshea
Amongst other things, Matthew Parris wrote:The media betray a sort of sheepish wish to “move on” from an erroneous report, hoping that their audience will not notice. Rather than acknowledge this, they publish a new report, leaving us to compare it with what had previously been said — and draw our own conclusions. Or they start barking up a different tree, the inference being that the last tree may have been the wrong tree.
Immediately after July 7 it was prominently reported that the explosions “bore all the hallmarks” of the use of a type of high-grade military explosive whose presence would indicate a sophisticated international dimension to the bombings. We were alerted to a likely al-Qaeda link.
Then the news went silent. Then it was announced that tests showed the explosive to be of a home-made (or home-makeable) kind that al-Qaeda were known to know about from the internet. Then that story, too, seemed to fizzle out.
A few days after that, much was made of the arrest in Egypt of a British Muslim whom the less-scrupulous news reports called a “chemist” (he is a biochemist). There was talk of British agents attending (or joining) his interrogation in Cairo. A statement from the Egyptian authorities denying that they had linked him to the bombing or that he was on their list of al-Qaeda suspects, did receive momentary attention — and then the story seemed to die. I do not know what has happened to it, or him.
I can't beleive that even
The Times can publish this straight-faced on the same webpage as the (uncorrected) articles
Explosives match al-Qaeda blueprint for bombmaking,
Tentacles of Terror (surely the most ridiculously titled graphic in any of the papers), and
Egyptian chemist and head of Pakistani religious school held.
Who says irony's dead, eh?
Posted: Mon 25 Jul, 2005 10.41
by johnnyboy
Agreed. At least, however, there are some signs that independent thought and critical analysis are breaking through the fog and misinformation created by journos who can't be arsed to do more than make a phone call to a Gov't contact to get their story (and then not fact-checking throughly) and editors determined to whip up the "Dunkirk Spirit" in their readers.
The excellent "Power Of Nightmares", referred to in Parris's piece, was the one bit of critical thought against the current climate on the BBC. Good on them. However, it easily gets lost with inaccurate reporting on the news programmes, spurious docudramas about dirty bombs and the frankly ridiculous "The New Al Qeada" documentary currently showing.
Posted: Mon 25 Jul, 2005 10.47
by Fireboy
Hymagumba wrote:so long as his love affair with Apple isn't affected Adam won't mind however many people get murdered.
Who's been telling you I have a love affair with Apple?
I can't deny their products are fab though.
Posted: Mon 25 Jul, 2005 11.25
by Lorns
Have i missed part 1 of the BBCs " The new Al-Qaeda"? I was under the impression that it began tonight on BBC2.
Posted: Mon 25 Jul, 2005 11.30
by scottish
No, you haven't missed it. The three-part series starts tonight on BBC Two at 9pm, and continues on the next two Monday evenings.
Posted: Mon 25 Jul, 2005 11.33
by Marcus
A good article by Matthew Paris. I agree with much of what he said. I don't believe he says it was an inside job though, unless I missed something.
I just can't take your arguments seriously when you complain the mainstream media covers everything up and site as your sources the mainstream media.
The Power of Nightmares was a BBC Production in case you have forgotton.
