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Re: Election propaganda
Posted: Fri 30 Apr, 2010 23.36
by Jovis
But I'm fairly sure you can halve £100.
Re: Election propaganda
Posted: Fri 30 Apr, 2010 23.43
by Chie
Jovis wrote:But I'm fairly sure you can halve £100.
Yeah well ok, you can buy one very nice balloon for £100 or you can buy two cheap balloons for £50 each (I can't believe we're talking about frigging balloons again). But some people will always consider themselves to be oppressed and hard done by until such time as they can afford to buy two £100 balloons. Because it's not
fair that they should have to make do with the cheap balloons while other people can afford betters ones. But even when they do reach a stage where they can afford the better quality things, they'll only find something else to moan about or some perceived persecution to revel in. You just can't please some people. That was kind of what I getting at though as well - when will people be happy? Where do you stop with regard to fairness and equality? I don't think it's actually possible. And imagine how bored they'd get once everything's finally 'perfect'.
Re: Election propaganda
Posted: Fri 30 Apr, 2010 23.50
by Jovis
Well I was trying to bring this away from balloons! I'm talking cash now.
On one hand your saying 'it's not fair that they should have to make do with the cheap balloons while other people can afford betters ones.' On the other, you use fairness to mean equality. Which do you mean?
I saw a doc on John Lewis a few weeks ago. At the start, they said how their founder thought how unfair it was that in most companies the CEO should get most of the profit and the employees (who'd done most of the work) should get far less. How is that 'fair'? Why should most of the world's wealth be held by so few when there are so many living in poverty and barely getting by?
Re: Election propaganda
Posted: Sat 01 May, 2010 02.48
by WillPS
Chie, I think you're missing the problem - how many pregnancies are planned? Sex is addictive and contraception isn't perfect. Abortion just isn't an option for some people, regardless of religion it is traumatic for any woman/couple.
My parents had 2 unplanned children, and 1 planned child in between them (I was the first born). At that time they couldn't really afford me, let alone a second, but they wanted me to grow up with a sibling so that I wouldn't be an only child. I'm clearly biased, but I'd do the same; I've only met one only child in real life who hasn't been a spoiled brat (although her household was so unstable it's impossible to see how she ever could have been), so there is certainly a correlation between the two.
If my girlfriend became pregnant right now, honestly I think we'd be a four person family within a small number of years - if there were no government support, we wouldn't have the choice (and I don't see that as a positive).
Re: Election propaganda
Posted: Wed 05 May, 2010 11.20
by Nick Harvey
Just had my very first item of propaganda, personally addressed to me by the Liberal Democrat candidate.
1) Pity I voted about ten days ago.
2) Pity they didn't do just a teeny weeny bit of research to realise that they're just a tad too pro-european to have any chance of my vote.
Re: Election propaganda
Posted: Wed 05 May, 2010 14.20
by WillPS
You're upset they didn't do any personal research into you before sending you a letter?
That's like me saying that DFS should have done a little research and discovered I've just bought a sofa before sending me one of their "great offer" letters.
Re: Election propaganda
Posted: Wed 05 May, 2010 14.50
by Sput
To be fair to Nick, he DID leave a burning bush outside their campaign headquarters. That alone should have given them the message.
Re: Election propaganda
Posted: Wed 05 May, 2010 17.44
by Nick Harvey
WillPS wrote:DFS should have done a little research and discovered I've just bought a sofa before sending me one of their "great offer" letters.
And so they bloody well should. It would save paper and the planet.
Re: Election propaganda
Posted: Wed 05 May, 2010 17.54
by Gavin Scott
Nick Harvey wrote:WillPS wrote:DFS should have done a little research and discovered I've just bought a sofa before sending me one of their "great offer" letters.
And so they bloody well should. It would save paper and the planet.
Nick!
If I didn't know you better I would say that's a very lefty thing to say.
Re: Election propaganda
Posted: Wed 05 May, 2010 20.34
by Nick Harvey
Shhhhhhhhhh!
Just don't tell anyone from Wales!
Re: Election propaganda
Posted: Wed 05 May, 2010 21.48
by Alexia
I'm Welsh. Not sure what that's got to do with it.