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Re: Public Transport in your particular part of the region
Posted: Mon 01 Sep, 2025 15.06
by cwathen
Scotrail has today gotten rid of peak fares...
https://www.scotrail.co.uk/about-scotra ... otrail-set
Whilst it does genuinely seem that if you would have been charged an anytime single or return fare with no other concessions applied then this is indeed now charged at the off peak rate all the time, delivering a (sometimes substantial) saving - the headline being Edinburgh-Glasgow which has seen a £30 ticket become a £15 ticket. But when it comes to railcards, season tickets, and flexible tickets, the distinction isn't so clear cut and it appears you still will pay more to travel in peak time (although I'm sure this will be dressed up as 'discounted less' rather than 'pay more').
Re: Public Transport in your particular part of the region
Posted: Mon 01 Sep, 2025 16.39
by Pete
cwathen wrote: Mon 01 Sep, 2025 15.06
Scotrail has today gotten rid of peak fares...
https://www.scotrail.co.uk/about-scotra ... otrail-set
Whilst it does genuinely seem that if you would have been charged an anytime single or return fare with no other concessions applied then this is indeed now charged at the off peak rate all the time, delivering a (sometimes substantial) saving - the headline being Edinburgh-Glasgow which has seen a £30 ticket become a £15 ticket. But when it comes to railcards, season tickets, and flexible tickets, the distinction isn't so clear cut and it appears you still will pay more to travel in peak time (although I'm sure this will be dressed up as 'discounted less' rather than 'pay more').
Yes it seems to be peak by demand pricing rather than peak by clockface
Re: Public Transport in your particular part of the region
Posted: Tue 02 Sep, 2025 16.42
by JAS84
Stagecoach could have been more informative about their route changes in Hull last weekend. Service 350 says "In Hull Interchange the service will depart Bay 34 instead of Bay 10." No other routes say anything about bay changes, even though there definitely are other changes as service 13 is the one that was using Bay 34 until Saturday.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-u ... :13:45:828
Re: Public Transport in your particular part of the region
Posted: Thu 11 Dec, 2025 18.32
by all new Phil
Can’t believe there’s been no mention of the Great British Rail livery here 😱
I quite like it, although it’s a little… I don’t know, lacking in creativity? I think if you asked AI to design a Great British Rail train, we’d get what we’ve ended up with.
Saw some branding on the ticket barriers at the station yesterday and thought GB News had bought the space to advertise.
Haven’t seen if they’ll dare to repaint Scotrail trains in the GBR design?
Re: Public Transport in your particular part of the region
Posted: Fri 12 Dec, 2025 19.31
by Martin Phillp
For all the hype about GBR, it'll largely be seen in England only except on long distance services that enter Wales and Scotland. Scotrail and Transport for Wales are devolved to their local governments.
GBR branding also won't be seen on London Overground, Elizabeth line or Merseyrail which are also devolved to local authorities but will continue to pay GBR to use the national rail network, while open access providers such as Hull Trains and Lumo aren't affected either.
Re: Public Transport in your particular part of the region
Posted: Wed 14 Jan, 2026 21.46
by Alexia
I remember being distressed that the old BR liveries were being phased out in 1993 when privitisation occurred, although the old fag packet GWT (not GWR) livery is now a stone cold classic.
I think having ONE LIVERY TO RULE THEM ALL is now a very very bad idea, as we have 1.5 generations of folk who have grown up with different trains having different colours. Going somewhere like Manchester Piccadilly you can instantly tell which train is yours by what colour it is.
Besides which the actual livery itself is complete dreck. It's a sop to the flagshaggers, nothing more. We've gone from flying banana to galloping gammon.
Re: Public Transport in your particular part of the region
Posted: Thu 15 Jan, 2026 07.53
by dosxuk
Alexia wrote: Wed 14 Jan, 2026 21.46Going somewhere like Manchester Piccadilly you can instantly tell which train is yours by what colour it is.
Unless it's one of those trains which has changed operator in the last 10 years and they haven't gotten around to repainting yet. Or it's being used by a different brand for the day (ahem, GTR).
Re: Public Transport in your particular part of the region
Posted: Thu 15 Jan, 2026 11.55
by thegeek
I think at the very least they could do with different versions for long-distance/local trains. NS do this quite well, I think.
Re: Public Transport in your particular part of the region
Posted: Thu 15 Jan, 2026 19.31
by WillPS
I think the display of a flag dragged over a train to form a livery is a great display of how un-British waving the Union Flag without any rationale is. This subtlety is utterly lost on the lunatics obviously.
Re: Public Transport in your particular part of the region
Posted: Tue 20 Jan, 2026 01.57
by Martin Phillp
How will the implementation of the Bee Network branded rail services work in Manchester? Will they be directly managed by TfGM under a franchise concession or will the existing TOC simply run them with the new branding?
Re: Public Transport in your particular part of the region
Posted: Tue 20 Jan, 2026 15.24
by WillPS
Martin Phillp wrote: Tue 20 Jan, 2026 01.57
How will the implementation of the Bee Network branded rail services work in Manchester? Will they be directly managed by TfGM under a franchise concession or will the existing TOC simply run them with the new branding?
GMPTE have funded railway services with varying levels of visibility for the whole time they've existed, all without actually running any trains themselves or having any responsibility for picking who does. This is an expansion of that as I see it.
Northern have been totally nationalised for ages at this point which probably helps.