Chie wrote:Your fragile ego must have misconstrued constructive critisism for intentional offence, because I can assure you no offence was intended on my part. Yes, I read the posts above yours. Here's the gist of what was being said:
"I don't know, this has whiffs of one of Cowell's publicity stunts now."
"It obviously is a publicity stunt,"
"Who knows if this was planned all along anyway?"
"something's been planned to happen somewhere."
"I think they will try to spin it"
"I think this story aload of crap"
"However it'll be spun into that and incorporated into the plot of the programmes."
"so much spin!"
"I wouldn't say it was planned as such, but it was probably always an option."
No one - not one single poster - gave the impression of taking the story at face value. It's the members you derided as "goldfish or perhaps sheep" who have grounds to be offended - not you.
Now we can put this behind us and move on or you can turn it into yet another episode where I make a claim, you rebuke it, evidence to the contrary modestly appears before your very eyes and instead of being grown-up about it you continue to have a cob on for days because your delicate ego has been bruised. Gavin, it's over to you.
All right lets discuss this further Chie - but I still think you fancy Mattarz.
You make a fair point that the posts in the thread *do* suggest an awareness of the possibility that this is an orchestrated scandal - especially when you trim out all of the "who will replace her" chatter that adjoined the posts you've quoted.
The "who will replace her", "why was she sacked" speculation is the bit that was winding me up.
Let me be frank - as entertainment shows go, I can't stand it. I simply couldn't care who ends up on the judges panel - but its been in the headlines here for three days now, and its not even a UK show. Except of course it is, because its already been sold to ITV2 - so whatever happens its already one of the fastest franchise hits he's come up with.
Because its such a "shockingly" large twist, even insightful and slightly cynical members like Inspector Sands says he wonders if this is really a ruse by Cowell. I still think it 100% is, because this venture is so great for Mr Cowell - its his chance to launch a further 7 or 8 seasons of his show in primetime, where "Season 15 of American Idol" is going to sound tired even to a stalwart fan.
So - I got cross (not liking the show as I don't), and said my piece.
And afterwards phil and squarey popped their heads up to say, "yeh whatever we love it".
And those two are my pals, as far as I'm concerned, so I thought, "all right then I'll shut up". So I haven't said anything else in their thread, and have resolved to shut my yap if I'm actually just pissing them off. I don't have to understand why they like it, I just have to accept that they do.
A number of years ago, I stood in the kitchen with my mum; and it had been raining, and we looked out to see a rainbow in the garden. In my sneery way I goaded my mum (who was an elder in the Church of Scotland) by asking, "so is that God's promise not to flood the earth?", and without missing a beat she said, "yes". And in that second I realised I could apply a long logic argument to tell her she was wrong, but I didn't.
At that time my granny (her mum) was dying. And it occurred to me how important my mum's belief in God was, and how important it was that I didn't piss on the thing that gave her comfort - just because I
could. And right up until mum herself died last November, she had her comfort.
Maybe that analogy doesn't fit the bill, but it crossed my mind during the heated debate, which is why I let it go.
Not, I'm sorry to tell you, because you prompted me to do so. You merely waded in after I had said my piece, and before big phil and square eyes spoke.
I do have a fragile ego, Chie. Its a sensibility common with a lot of performer types. But this wasn't an occasion where it was bruised, it was more of an occasion when you're happily on your hobby horse in the pub and a pal says, "for Christ's sake give it a rest".
But let he who is without sin etc., Chie. During the discussion about Osama Bin Laden you asked for your membership to be terminated because being in the minority in a view you held (and worrying people thought badly of you) pushed you to your fragility limit.
Casting up things isn't very classy - but oh look - we can both do it.
You may take from this the concession that
you were right that people in the thread weren't blind to the truth, even though they discussed and speculated and googled for news just as Simon wanted them to. They knew, but they did it anyway. You were right, and I don't mind that you were.
Hooray for Chie.
