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So true. The majority of good performers are not after fame, as you stated so eloquently. Most who are will end up disappointed. Bravo James.

EDIT: And congrats on making the cut!

James H wrote:. Oh, and aeonsource - see me

WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM MEEE!!!

I think the "joy" of Susan Boyle is that she has sang for a long time as a hobby and isn't the type of person who'd make it into a musical based on looks, but actually has a very nice voice.

As you rightly point out, permatanned, theatre school trained, preened, prissy little drama queens are "ten a penny", and don't really make the headlines for that reason.

trivialmatters wrote:As you rightly point out, permatanned, theatre school trained, preened, prissy little drama queens are "ten a penny", and don't really make the headlines for that reason.

I'm guessing that comment was meant to be purely provocative, but here comes my rebuke; we're not all like that.

There were two quiet Scottish girls who've just got a place on the course at my auditions. One of them was ginger, and therefore, nowhere near perma tanned. I'm on the reserve list, and I'm certainly not prissy or little. Your words are incredibly "an outsider's view of musical theatre" (coincidentally, there are way too many people these days borrowing from that book) - in fact the perma-tanned lot are probably the ones I'm trying to avoid, because they're usually (and this is based on my experience) the ones who exert all the symptoms but don't seem to have the disease within them.

Hope that clears things up for you.

James H wrote:

trivialmatters wrote:As you rightly point out, permatanned, theatre school trained, preened, prissy little drama queens are "ten a penny", and don't really make the headlines for that reason.

I'm guessing that comment was meant to be purely provocative, but here comes my rebuke; we're not all like that.

There were two quiet Scottish girls who've just got a place on the course at my auditions. One of them was ginger, and therefore, nowhere near perma tanned. I'm on the reserve list, and I'm certainly not prissy or little. Your words are incredibly "an outsider's view of musical theatre" (coincidentally, there are way too many people these days borrowing from that book) - in fact the perma-tanned lot are probably the ones I'm trying to avoid, because they're usually (and this is based on my experience) the ones who exert all the symptoms but don't seem to have the disease within them.

Hope that clears things up for you.

I don't think that was directed at you in that sense.

Theatre Schools, like Italia Conti etc, are a world apart from a full 3 year diploma or degree course at the likes of Guildhall or the Central School of Speech and Drama. Some may not realise that, but they are.

And it true enough that the former tends to include a large percentage of the type of pretentious child "star" trivialmatters mentions - but that's largely because they *are* children. They mellow in time - honestly!

Don't be too quick to take offence James. When I studied acting we were known as "drama patients" by the rest at the Uni - and it wasn't a mark of affection.

You have to let these things wash over you - you'll hear a lot worse in your career!

Gavin Scott wrote:I don't think that was directed at you in that sense.

Theatre Schools, like Italia Conti etc, are a world apart from a full 3 year diploma or degree course at the likes of Guildhall or the Central School of Speech and Drama. Some may not realise that, but they are.

And it true enough that the former tends to include a large percentage of the type of pretentious child "star" trivialmatters mentions - but that's largely because they *are* children. They mellow in time - honestly!

Don't be too quick to take offence James. When I studied acting we were known as "drama patients" by the rest at the Uni - and it wasn't a mark of affection.

You have to let these things wash over you - you'll hear a lot worse in your career!

Though not necessarily worlds apart, Gav; a lot of people who apply to study at IC also apply to places like Central and RADA. I certainly did (though not IC - I've got my own reasons).

You are right about childstars though. It's incredible to see how young people are starting to go for these careers now. I left school at 18, applied once, am now 19 and re-applied, and my 16-year-old friend is studying at Liverpool for a Nat Dip in Musical Theatre. Crazy!

I had a politics teacher who said when I was auditioning I was off "pretending to be a tree". It's alright, I knew he was being paid peanuts in a job he hated and only took for the holidays, was living on a food budget of £8 a week and had previously been bankrupted after his wife left him. And I got an A in politics which shoved it right up his.

Not that I'm vindictive or anything.

By the way - what do people think to making these comment sections twice weekly? (One Friday and one Monday)?

James H wrote:By the way - what do people think to making these comment sections twice weekly? (One Friday and one Monday)?

How would you feel about a blog section of metropol?

Gavin Scott wrote:How would you feel about a blog section of metropol?

no

How about blogspot? then we're all happy!

I agree, perhaps i can find a gizmo to add a "i just updated my website" flag to profiles though. Obv Nick's could be on autopilot.

What about profile blogs? As in being able to access and write on a blog on your member profile? And something that comes up with "James has just updated his member blog"?