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BBC LDN wrote:It seems so. At least in part, it's down to the difficulties that Apple's suppliers faced in perfecting the white finish that have accounted for the enormous delay in releasing the thing.

The white model was of course first announced at the iPhone 4 product launch alongside the black model, and I think it was a couple of months after that that Apple 'fessed up to problems in the production process as the white paint mix had consistently failed to meet their quality control requirements. In January, it was suggested in the blogosphere that a new paint solution had finally been found, and that this would finally allow Apple to release the white model.

Remarkable that it's all taken so long.

It is, I don't believe it's just a case of them being fussy with the finish, in the 21st century it's not that difficult surely. I think they've held off to give them a new product to push, with new rival smartphones coming out almost daily the gap between each version of the iphone is a long time in tech terms. It also gives a nice diversion from their recent PR problems

So, what are the anticipated new features of the iPhone 5? Any clues?

What more is there to put into a handheld device?

Inspector Sands wrote:It is, I don't believe it's just a case of them being fussy with the finish, in the 21st century it's not that difficult surely. I think they've held off to give them a new product to push, with new rival smartphones coming out almost daily the gap between each version of the iphone is a long time in tech terms. It also gives a nice diversion from their recent PR problems

From what I'd read, the problem was they couldn't get the main case and the home button to match nicely.

Inspector Sands wrote:

jsm wrote:The one thing that I miss about WebOS is the notification system. The pop-up notifications on iOS are absolutely awful. WebOS handles notifications absolutely beautifully, far better than any other mobile OS currently on the market

I've heard that about iPhones before, what doesn't iOS do with its notifications?

All notifications come in the form of an obtrusive pop-up,. It sounds like a minor complaint, but it's way behind Android, WebOS, and WP7.

jsm wrote:

Inspector Sands wrote:

jsm wrote:The one thing that I miss about WebOS is the notification system. The pop-up notifications on iOS are absolutely awful. WebOS handles notifications absolutely beautifully, far better than any other mobile OS currently on the market

I've heard that about iPhones before, what doesn't iOS do with its notifications?

All notifications come in the form of an obtrusive pop-up,. It sounds like a minor complaint, but it's way behind Android, WebOS, and WP7.

Speaking of such notifications, is there a way to get the iphone to have a popup for emails? it seems to do it for everything else, but emails get a little vibrate and that's it.

Perhaps it's the fanboi in my (oo er missus), but it annoys me that they always call Foxconn's workers "Apple's workers" when Foxconn make loads of stuff for loads of big companies.

No, I'd take as many opportunities to shoot Apple down as I could, but I read that article with a sense of disbelief that someone thought it was an article worth publishing against Apple!

So, did anyone catch the documentary about Apple last night on the Beeb?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13416272

In essence, it was some (really unlikeable) bloke who "reckons" that Apple is some sort of cult. As the programme opened, there he was sat in his kitchen holding up a Nokia classic phone and his Windows netbook. He goes on to say that, as good and as suitable as these devices are, he comes under constant criticism from pals who like Apple products.

Some well dodgy "science" reveals Apple consumers brains light up at the thought of new products and devices, in the same way that they do for those involved in evangelical religion. Sadly, they didn't perform the same test on boys with pictures of boobies or willies (preference dependent, naturally), or indeed some older single lady with pictures of cats and Galaxy bars.

Full of specious reasoning, assumption and bias, this was a documentary worthy of Channel 5, not the BBC.

Absolute unmitigated bollocks.

I like my iPad, am tempted by the iPhone, but love my PC(s). I may click on dodgy links on FB to glimpse the new products, but I like all new products.

This guy is shit. I'd only ever seen him before on Discovery channel (one of the lesser ones) talking about caravans, and he was shit on that too.

I liked him* and the show even though there was lots wrong in it - the store openings left me cold, but I think Microsoft have started doing it too.

*i newspaper called him John Shuttleworth's younger trendier brother

He fundamentally failed to grasp the point, though.

Having customers get excited about your next product is something that every single company in the world aspires to. The question shouldn't be, "what insidious mind games are they playing?", its "how do they manage to do this so well where other companies try and fail?".

Now I'm not overly keen on their somewhat questionable ethics with regard to treatment of staff at their manufacturing sites, but as Sput pointed out, Foxconn also manufacture for other firms.

I'm not keen on their somewhat aloof and secretive nature, but then they *did* come up with the goods when I sought an upgrade; and I've had poor service from other companies who didn't offer me upgrades.

So, if fanbois wet their boxers because they're first in the queue at a new shop, so what? That kind of thing doesn't interest me. I'm not videotaping myself taking the cellophane off the box my iPad came in - but if someone else wants to do that then they can go ahead. Their money, their dignity, their boxers.

I know I was previously a little scornful of the "love" Apple enjoys from its customers, but I've tried the products and think they're pretty good. I can enjoy it at a "safe" level, and try to accept that others love it.

But this guy didn't even explore the idea that the good will is largely generated by Apple producing some really nice kit. He would sooner believe that they spike the water supply with hallucinogens.

How he ended up getting the BBC to bankroll a documentary based on his conspiratorial opinion is completely beyond me.