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Posted: Thu 21 Jul, 2005 12.11
by Gavin Scott
Dr Lobster* wrote:the pill is most dangerous when the woman taking it over 35 or overweight.
most young girls do not have any side effects at all, in fact, it often makes periods lighter, predictable and with less cramps - that's certainly the case with my partner.
you seem to have led a very sheltered life, james.
drop me a pm if you want me to put you in contact with a friend who will be more than happy to drill you up the arse and sort you out.
Knock it off Lobster. You are not being helpful or even accurate.
And if your current girlfirend is 14 then perhaps YOU should be speaking to someone about it.
"Most young girls do not have any side effects"? Did you just make that up?
Get your facts straight.
Posted: Thu 21 Jul, 2005 14.02
by babyben
James H wrote:babyben wrote:Gavin Scott wrote:I can't imagine why anyone would think it's appropriate for a 14 year old girl to alter her hormone balance, or to interrupt her menstrual cycle when it may have only functioned properly for, what, 18 months? In my view 14 year olds should not use the pill.
Being on the pill will, in all likelyhood, mean that she doesn't bother using condoms. All of the evidence suggests that this is what will happen, and is the fundamental reason why some sexual health organisations recommend against it.
The most common STI for girls of this age is chlamydia. It shows no symptoms until the damage it causes has already been done. In women, the infection can spread to the fallopian tubes causing irreversible damage.
Condoms are the best protection. It's the best advice a Doctor could give, (and I wish I had taken it).
I really agree with you gav, but in a practical sense - how many 14 year old boys carry condoms? When they decide to have sex, some protection is better than none, and in this case - her being on the pill is better than nothing.
The lad's sixteen.
Well 16 then - my point still stands..
Posted: Thu 21 Jul, 2005 14.05
by johnnyboy
So, who's drilling whose arse then?
Posted: Thu 21 Jul, 2005 14.23
by J.Christie
I was expecting the top thread to be about the current events in London, and all I saw as Sex...
Posted: Thu 21 Jul, 2005 14.31
by johnnyboy
J.Christie wrote:I was expecting the top thread to be about the current events in London, and all I saw as Sex...
We're a simple bunch here.
Loving Helen Willets' breasts.
Posted: Thu 21 Jul, 2005 14.46
by Cheese Head
James your coming across a bit prudish and sheltered...
I hate that, along with strict censorship.
I thought I'd add that...
Posted: Thu 21 Jul, 2005 15.46
by cdd
Well James is clearly... deeply involved emotionally... with this girl -- I think it's more of a selfish thing and a difficulty to accept she's with someone else than really "caring" about this girl. You talk txt spk but only to her -- how sad is that, is she not able to read or something? Whatever the motive for that it's very fishy and seedy. As Jamez said, sounds like SOMEONE is a smidge jealous.
Re. the girl -- and not your sordid love life -- I think it's the responsibility of the other person to decide if it's sound to have sex with her. He's 16, she's 15. Ergo, it seems irresponsible of him to decide to have sex with someone underage. It's clearly causing her distress and anyone with half a brain could have seen it coming.
Posted: Thu 21 Jul, 2005 15.48
by James H
cdd wrote:Well James is clearly... deeply involved emotionally... with this girl -- I think it's more of a selfish thing and a difficulty to accept she's with someone else than really "caring" about this girl. You talk txt spk but only to her -- how sad is that, is she not able to read or something? Whatever the motive for that it's very fishy and seedy. As Jamez said, sounds like SOMEONE is a smidge jealous.
Probably, yeah. And it's not only to her, Chris.... I just use proper English depending on my company.
Posted: Thu 21 Jul, 2005 19.14
by Cheese Head
James H wrote:cdd wrote:Well James is clearly... deeply involved emotionally... with this girl -- I think it's more of a selfish thing and a difficulty to accept she's with someone else than really "caring" about this girl. You talk txt spk but only to her -- how sad is that, is she not able to read or something? Whatever the motive for that it's very fishy and seedy. As Jamez said, sounds like SOMEONE is a smidge jealous.
Probably, yeah. And it's not only to her, Chris.... I just use proper English depending on my company.
oooo that annoys me - be yourself, use what you prefer not what "your comapany" prefers. yiesh.
Posted: Thu 21 Jul, 2005 19.40
by Dr Lobster*
Gavin Scott wrote:Dr Lobster* wrote:the pill is most dangerous when the woman taking it over 35 or overweight.
most young girls do not have any side effects at all, in fact, it often makes periods lighter, predictable and with less cramps - that's certainly the case with my partner.
you seem to have led a very sheltered life, james.
drop me a pm if you want me to put you in contact with a friend who will be more than happy to drill you up the arse and sort you out.
Knock it off Lobster. You are not being helpful or even accurate.
And if your current girlfirend is 14 then perhaps YOU should be speaking to someone about it.
"Most young girls do not have any side effects"? Did you just make that up?
Get your facts straight.
i certainly am being accurate, and i maintain the majority of women who use hormone based contraceptives do not have any ill effects. those who do, will need to see their gp for a different solution.
Posted: Fri 22 Jul, 2005 20.06
by Lorns
Dr Lobster* wrote:Gavin Scott wrote:Dr Lobster* wrote:the pill is most dangerous when the woman taking it over 35 or overweight.
most young girls do not have any side effects at all, in fact, it often makes periods lighter, predictable and with less cramps - that's certainly the case with my partner.
you seem to have led a very sheltered life, james.
drop me a pm if you want me to put you in contact with a friend who will be more than happy to drill you up the arse and sort you out.
Knock it off Lobster. You are not being helpful or even accurate.
And if your current girlfirend is 14 then perhaps YOU should be speaking to someone about it.
"Most young girls do not have any side effects"? Did you just make that up?
Get your facts straight.
i certainly am being accurate, and i maintain the majority of women who use hormone based contraceptives do not have any ill effects. those who do, will need to see their gp for a different solution.
Before i begin, i shall fore-warn you all that i've had a couple of glasses of vino so i may ramble on a bit.
It sounds like this girl is a pretty sensible young woman and it's reassuring that she can talk to her mum about it. So many girls can't which is really quite sad.
Dr. Lobster is pretty accurate. Most young girls don't suffer any side effects. Not sure about the age risk. If he's right then i may have to have a Vasectomy discusson with my bloke pretty soon-ish.
I went on the pill at 15 and have never sufered any side effects.
If a girl is sexually active then going on the pill is the sensible option to prevent an unwanted pregnancy and to carry condoms to prevent a s.t.d.
There are many positive points to using the pill and a fair few negatives too.
I recently had a little to-do with my new Doctor about me using the pill. I'm a smoker and it is not advisable or me to use the combined pill. Just to please him i tried the mini-pill instead of trying to quit smoking. Never ever, EVER again!!!
It came with a whole range of problems. Without going into too much detail.
12 weeks later with 1 pregnancy scare and a normally rock solid relationship on the rocks due to my mood swings, i returned to the clinic and told him it didn't agree with me so could i have my usual pill PLEASE.
He agreed to prescribe it to me if i agree to quit smoking soon. I feel i'm in no-win situation here. Why oh why did my old Dr retire? Looks like i'm going to have to try quitting the ciggies. Any smokers here fancy trying to quit smoking with me??