O2 added the "adult mobile" filter recently. You now have to pay them £1 on a credit card (which is then turned into a credit on your mobile account) to access any website they consider "adult"... like Google Translate, for example.
Or you can go into your nearest O2 store and tell the assistant you want porn on your phone.
The reasons that O2 say they can't assume that the person who bought the phone is the user is that you may have given the phone to a child. I'd say the person giving the phone is responsible for that, however we have apparently got to the stage where everyone is treated as stupid. The fact that most people are stupid is no excuse for that. They will just continue being stupid.
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Gavin Scott
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Fooks sake.
I had recommended O2 to the office, on the basis of BT OpenZone access, but £10.21 per month seems awfully expensive for just 500BM of 3G, compared to what I read on here last night.
So, I come into work this morning and fire off an email to the directors and new financial controller telling them that my recommendation is now the 3 network - on the basis that O2 only offer the "cloud", and the data allowance with 3 is considerably higher.
However, as the main boss is in London, I decided to give her the O2 SIM temporarily. On registering, it tells me they now give 1GB for £10, and it explicitly says "unlimited access to Cloud, BTFON and BT OpenZone".
WTF?
All this "how much and for what" is starting to make me look like a fool.
I appreciate "fluid markets", but this is ridiculous.
I had recommended O2 to the office, on the basis of BT OpenZone access, but £10.21 per month seems awfully expensive for just 500BM of 3G, compared to what I read on here last night.
So, I come into work this morning and fire off an email to the directors and new financial controller telling them that my recommendation is now the 3 network - on the basis that O2 only offer the "cloud", and the data allowance with 3 is considerably higher.
However, as the main boss is in London, I decided to give her the O2 SIM temporarily. On registering, it tells me they now give 1GB for £10, and it explicitly says "unlimited access to Cloud, BTFON and BT OpenZone".
WTF?
All this "how much and for what" is starting to make me look like a fool.
I appreciate "fluid markets", but this is ridiculous.
Unless you have an O2 micro sim for the iPad, where you don't have an account or a balance, in which case the money goes down the drain. Which is what happened to me. Fuckers.marksi wrote:pay them £1 on a credit card (which is then turned into a credit on your mobile account
All of our Vodafone and T-Mobile business connections here were also supplied with parental controls/adult verification filters set up. Business connections. For business people. Grown-ups.
*sigh*
As marksi rightly points out, this is imposing an inconvenience on everyone on the assumption that those that have children are unable or unwilling to take responsibility for protecting their own kids from content that they find objectionable. I don't doubt that there are useless parents out there who would indeed buy smartphones and mobile broadband connections for their kids without bothering to put any content restrictions in place, and who would then blame the operator when they walk in to find their son beating his meat over some prime web filth.
But why should that be my problem? A home broadband ISP can't be blamed if the kids connect to porn, because the responsibility lies with the end-user to impose restrictions as he sees fit. A landline provider can't be blamed if the kids call premium-rate wank-chat lines, because the responsibility lies with the parents to teach their kids to use the phone responsibly, or to put a PIN on outgoing calls if the little shits can't be trusted. Neither the programmers of the computer operating system nor the manufacturers of its hardware can be held responsible if the kids view dodgy content on it, because software is widely available to restrict access as desired, and again common sense prevails here in devolving responsibility for managing the restrictions to the parents.
So why the shitballs do we all bend over and take it when it comes to our mobile service providers? Why, oh why, in this one instance, is it assumed that the parent or guardian does not have to assume responsibility and that instead everyone must go through the hassle of removing a content lock to view even the tamest of content?
ARGH.
Splendid. Good to get that off my chest.
*sigh*
As marksi rightly points out, this is imposing an inconvenience on everyone on the assumption that those that have children are unable or unwilling to take responsibility for protecting their own kids from content that they find objectionable. I don't doubt that there are useless parents out there who would indeed buy smartphones and mobile broadband connections for their kids without bothering to put any content restrictions in place, and who would then blame the operator when they walk in to find their son beating his meat over some prime web filth.
But why should that be my problem? A home broadband ISP can't be blamed if the kids connect to porn, because the responsibility lies with the end-user to impose restrictions as he sees fit. A landline provider can't be blamed if the kids call premium-rate wank-chat lines, because the responsibility lies with the parents to teach their kids to use the phone responsibly, or to put a PIN on outgoing calls if the little shits can't be trusted. Neither the programmers of the computer operating system nor the manufacturers of its hardware can be held responsible if the kids view dodgy content on it, because software is widely available to restrict access as desired, and again common sense prevails here in devolving responsibility for managing the restrictions to the parents.
So why the shitballs do we all bend over and take it when it comes to our mobile service providers? Why, oh why, in this one instance, is it assumed that the parent or guardian does not have to assume responsibility and that instead everyone must go through the hassle of removing a content lock to view even the tamest of content?
ARGH.
Splendid. Good to get that off my chest.
I have just spent 15 minutes persuading 3 to let me end my 1 month rolling contract. It was not easy due to the number of "how about this?" offers. Most of them were dire (e.g. iPad 1 64GB = £99 + £25 x 24 months) but two of them were potentially more useful to others on the same tariff who might want to try their luck:
1. Increasing to 15gb a month (from 5gb) for the same price (£15.99), rolling contract
2. Decreasing the price to £8 a month (from £15.99) for 5gb, 12 month contract.
1. Increasing to 15gb a month (from 5gb) for the same price (£15.99), rolling contract
2. Decreasing the price to £8 a month (from £15.99) for 5gb, 12 month contract.
Knight knight
There's a slight diff. between the two - BTOpenZone is the one available in commercial premises like coffee shops, train stations etc; whereas FON is a BT Customer sharing a wee bit of their private home broadband wireless with the general public. So whether that makes a difference in your case, I've no idea.cdd wrote:I get access to BTOpenZone - but interestingly not BTFon.Gavin Scott wrote:it explicitly says "unlimited access to Cloud, BTFON and BT OpenZone".
I'm totally confused too now. Hopeless.
Oh yes I'm aware of the difference, and I don't get access to the latter. Which is intriguing as Gav quoted his contract as saying it did give access to BT Fon.
Either way, it's might annoying since BTFon networks go by the SSID "BTOpenZone". My iphone/ipad automatically connects to them, only to not give me internet access, which is a royal pain given how many of them there are.
Either way, it's might annoying since BTFon networks go by the SSID "BTOpenZone". My iphone/ipad automatically connects to them, only to not give me internet access, which is a royal pain given how many of them there are.
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It depends on the age of the hub - the older hubs are named as BTOpenZone, and the newer ones say BT FON.cdd wrote:Oh yes I'm aware of the difference, and I don't get access to the latter. Which is intriguing as Gav quoted his contract as saying it did give access to BT Fon.
Either way, it's might annoying since BTFon networks go by the SSID "BTOpenZone". My iphone/ipad automatically connects to them, only to not give me internet access, which is a royal pain given how many of them there are.
Virgin Mobile allow you to just turn off the control through your account. Restart the connection and you can has porn!