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What a fucking bastard. :roll:

Well done to the gentleman for carrying on regardless and ignoring this piece of scum sucking pondlife. Any official who calls a member of the public 'mate' (I'm not your mate - it's 'sir' to you) deserves to be ignored, never mind the rest of that absolutely shocking behaviour. I hope he never works again.

In my job, I am only allowed to let members of the public have a maximum of 2 hours per day PC time at the library. Something to do with health/safety etc. And in our building there are two PC suites. Many of the punters finish their 2 hours with one and then hot-foot it to the other one and have another two hours. If I allow someone to have that extra 2 hours, I could be found to be in breach of official guidelines etc etc. So in effect my hands are tied, and despite how crap I feel turning people away who have to write essays or create CVs or apply for jobs, it simply has to be done.

I am not defending this chap for a second - far from it, like Gavin said, his vernacular, attitude and behaviour were appalling - when I turn people away I explain the situation and that we are prevented from doing so by guidelines etc -- but maybe in this and a lot of cases, the jobsworths are the people further up the chain drawing out guidelines and rules that are rediculously designed to over-nanny the public safely. If someone wants to stand one inch the wrong side of the yellow line (because let's face it, even if you're on the RIGHT side of those yellow lines you're still in danger of going under a Tube train on a crowded platform) then that's their funeral. Similarly if some social misfit wants to spend half their day staring at Farmville on Facebook, frying their retinas and stiffening their neck, then who am I to stop them?

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Chie wrote:What a fucking bastard. :roll:

Well done to the gentleman for carrying on regardless and ignoring this piece of scum sucking pondlife. Any official who calls a member of the public 'mate' (I'm not your mate - it's 'sir' to you) deserves to be ignored, never mind the rest of that absolutely shocking behaviour. I hope he never works again.

When you've taken some time to shove that poisonous bile right back into the orifice from whence it came, take a minute to consider what actually came out in the first place.

Firstly, the 'Daily Mail' article headlines: "Caught on camera: The moment Tube worker told elderly passenger he will 'sling him under a train'". This is untrue - what IS caught on camera is the Tube worker telling the gentleman not to board the train, being frustrated that he ignored this request, and ultimately the (sadly unnecessary, but probably knee-jerk response) humiliation of said gentleman. The point is, if you're told to do something by someone providing a service to you, you bloody well do it. Never mind this "I know best" mentality - just do it. It makes peoples' lives a lot simpler.

Secondly, your post contains language which is completely unnecessary. What if... this piece of "scum sucking pondlife", as you beautifully called him, has a family and two children? What if he woke up to go to work on that morning, and his wife was ill, one of his children had swine flu, and the other was disabled? What if he had, like a lot of us do (apart from you, it seems, judging from the Tories thread), had a bad day at work, and unfortunately took it out on a customer. It can happen anywhere - and the Tube is no exception. Great. Still hope he never works again?

As a side-note, I'd prefer to be called neither 'sir' (foolishly Dickensian) or 'mate' (a bit too personal). 'Excuse me' would do just fine. I don't want my ego flattered by someone, I just want them to work and make the thing that I want to work, work.

James H wrote:Firstly, the 'Daily Mail' article headlines: "Caught on camera: The moment Tube worker told elderly passenger he will 'sling him under a train'". This is untrue - what IS caught on camera is the Tube worker telling the gentleman not to board the train, being frustrated that he ignored this request, and ultimately the (sadly unnecessary, but probably knee-jerk response) humiliation of said gentleman. The point is, if you're told to do something by someone providing a service to you, you bloody well do it. Never mind this "I know best" mentality - just do it. It makes peoples' lives a lot simpler.

Firstly, no one's mentioned the Daily Mail, James, so I don't know why you've brought that up yet again. It's starting to border on obsession now.

James H wrote:Secondly, your post contains language which is completely unnecessary. What if... this piece of "scum sucking pondlife", as you beautifully called him, has a family and two children? What if he woke up to go to work on that morning, and his wife was ill, one of his children had swine flu, and the other was disabled? What if he had, like a lot of us do (apart from you, it seems, judging from the Tories thread), had a bad day at work, and unfortunately took it out on a customer. It can happen anywhere - and the Tube is no exception. Great.

I doubt any woman would put up with that kind of douchebag in this day and age. If he does have a partner then she must be just as miserable and disgusting as him and they're a match made in heaven.

If he has children they definitely need taking into care by Social Services. He publicly humiliated a senior citizen in front of 100 people - I dread to think what he's like behind closed doors.

James H wrote:Still hope he never works again?

Yep.

James H wrote:As a side-note, I'd prefer to be called neither 'sir' (foolishly Dickensian) or 'mate' (a bit too personal). 'Excuse me' would do just fine. I don't want my ego flattered by someone, I just want them to work and make the thing that I want to work, work.

I don't really mind what they call me, as long as it's not 'mate'.

Now you can tar me with the Daily Mail reader brush til you're blue in the face, James. See how much I care.

One of the most idiotic posts I've ever read - you're honestly basing all that on one clip?

No - I just honestly believe that "hoping someone never works again" is mighty far to go for one isolated incident.

Chie - if the cap fits, 'mate'.....

James H wrote:No - I just honestly believe that "hoping someone never works again" is mighty far to go for one isolated incident.

Chie - if the cap fits, 'mate'.....

You can't necessarily surmise its an isolated incident, just that this was caught on video.

After reading the first and last of her articles, I wished Jan Moir from the Mail dead (at the very least sacked) so I think we can all agree that I speak with some authority on the matter of hysterical over-reactions

I think they are just fine.

I'm routinely calling for people to be sacked. Sometimes to a glassy-eyed circle of friends, more often as a low level internal monologue, accompanying my day to day irritations like an audio description. Scotmid staff, bus drivers, colleagues, the cleaner. They don't know it, but I'm inwardly tutting and harumphing and shaking my head throughout our interface. And do I give a hoot about their career prospects going forward? Do I buffalo.

Its pretty harmless to hope that justice - wicked and painful justice - will befall anyone who offends my sensibilities or pisses me off. And there's no shortage of candidates. Its a pressure vent, really, a way to deal with buffoons, arseholes and the enfeebled.

Chie, you can't infer a home life and a back-story from this piece of video. All it shows is that he had a temper. No doubt about that.

I don't think its a smart idea to have a man working with the public on the tube who becomes aggressive when he's frustrated. Confused tourists and non-English speaking travellers are everywhere, and they need to be shepherded. A doddery pensioner needs the same thing. Not to be bellowed at like a naughty schoolboy. There's always going to be passenger frustrations working for the tube, so I'd hope his employer will look at whether he should be customer-facing at all.

I reckon they should sack 'im.

A shocking state of affairs really that an employee trained for such eventually decides to forget all this and just hurl abuse at a passenger. Should never have happened and I would like to think that he will regret his actions - especially as he's now being made into an example in the national media.

However, if he thought that the elderly passenger was in danger or not respecting the safety guidelines laid down then he has every right to ask him not to travel. Gavin though, is absolutely correct in saying he should have followed the correct procedure. Only THEN would he actually only have become a jobsworth but would wouldn't be facing the sack as could be now. These actions were not that of a jobsworth, they were the actions of someone who lost their temper and did it in front of a large number of people. There is no excuse for this kind of behavour.

I speak to people on a regular basis that scream and shout at me because they don't like the rules, and I could just as easily raise my voice and use abusive and/or threatening language. But I don't, because I am a better person than that. I care for my job, but above all this I respect the customer who at times won't always do and say what we want them to do. That's life.

James H wrote:No - I just honestly believe that "hoping someone never works again" is mighty far to go for one isolated incident.

Chie - if the cap fits, 'mate'.....

I was talking to Chie.

Cheerfully withdrawn!