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Re: The "what on earth are tesco thinking" thread

Posted: Wed 24 Sep, 2008 15.38
by TG
Right. Here's where I come in with the answer they gave the employees!

The blurb we've all been given to read at work states basically that these products are of a higher quality and price than our Value range, and a lower quality and price than our regular own-brand range.

We can't quite work out what's possessed them either - it put every one of us in mind of Lidl and Aldi too, all these random named new brand items. They're not selling marvellously here either.

Re: The "what on earth are tesco thinking" thread

Posted: Wed 24 Sep, 2008 16.18
by cwathen
so, each store now has a range of these "discount brands." Brands such as "Mermaid Bay" frozen foods, "Country Barn" cereals, "packers choice" teabags and, my particular favourite, "wheatfield" bread.
The conspiracy theorist in me wonders whether or not this is Tesco's attempt to get a foothold on the other big supermarkets which they cannot afford/would not be allowed to buy out. As production costs rise and rise with Tesco possibly being the only one able to absorb them long term, perhaps they have introduced these de-branded own brand products with the intention that in time they might end up offering to sell them as stock to other supermarkets, coming up (initially at least) with a deal that is better value than buying directly from producers? That gives Tesco a lucrative role as a bulk supplier, and also enables them to price fix, with Tesco maintaining a nice healthy margin on these brands but cutting that of any other chains stocking them down to the bone. It also reduces the possibility of other chains competing for a given producer's product, thus preventing any possible attempts to manuevre them into paying more.
The blurb we've all been given to read at work states basically that these products are of a higher quality and price than our Value range, and a lower quality and price than our regular own-brand range.
So these brands aren't replacing Value, but are another tier added in? So there will be Tesco Value, Fake Brand, Tesco Normal and Tesco Finest? Seems a bit much to me.

What I find particularly interesting about the own brand products is the way the major supermarkets have created different tiers within their own brand range. I will never forget working as a temp in a meat processing factory about 5 years ago. This factory's main business is a lucrative Tesco contract. I spent most of my time working on lines making diced beef and minced beef.

Tesco Value, normal and finest mince all starts with the same primal cuts and initially goes through the same line. After an initial coarse mince, you end up with huge stainless steel bins of minced beef. At this stage, this product goes through a final process which will determine where it will sit in Tesco's range.

The 'finest' product simply goes through a finer mince process, is packaged and ready for despatch. The 'normal' goes through the same fine mince, but with a small amount of fat from other lines added in to bulk the weight up slightly making it slightly cheaper.

But the 'Value' range is the biggest scam of them all - the fine mince isn't quite as fine and the packing machines which seal the celophane top on don't inject as much oxygen in so the meat doesn't look as red. On the shelf the slightly coarser, darker 'value' mince might look a cheaper and inferior product, but it's technically exactly the same as the higher priced 'normal' range, which itself is barely any different to the even higher priced 'finest' range.

It's interesting to note that also that the cheaper ranges require more time, manpower and machinery to make than the expensive one does - and I can't see the slightly increased fat content making up for this.

These 'tiered' ranges (for fresh meat at least) are little more than a masterpiece of marketing where the cheaper products are specially processed to look inferior rather than actually being so.

Re: The "what on earth are tesco thinking" thread

Posted: Wed 24 Sep, 2008 16.32
by Stuart*
Well explained Cwathen. My mate works in a stationery factory, it was in Saltash which moved to Plymouth last year. They regularly produce different branded items: WHSmith etc, but it's only a short stop in the production line to swap labels to someone else. Tesco, Sainburys, Morrisons....

It's the same with Tesco Value and others. It's only a matter of them changing the labelling.

EDIT:
I didn't realise they did the above though at Tesco :o

Re: The "what on earth are tesco thinking" thread

Posted: Wed 24 Sep, 2008 16.33
by Sput
StuartPlymouth wrote:Well explained Cwathen.
God you're patronising.

Re: The "what on earth are tesco thinking" thread

Posted: Wed 24 Sep, 2008 16.35
by Stuart*
Sput wrote:
StuartPlymouth wrote:Well explained Cwathen.
God you're patronising.
He'd only done half his post - he kept amending it. My comment was correct at the time of posting, and continues to be now. You really are irritating Sput!

Re: The "what on earth are tesco thinking" thread

Posted: Wed 24 Sep, 2008 16.39
by Sput
StuartPlymouth wrote:
Sput wrote:
StuartPlymouth wrote:Well explained Cwathen.
God you're patronising.
He'd only done half his post - he kept amending it. My comment was correct at the time of posting.
It's got nothing to do with correctness, it's all to do with you praising members in the style of a primary school teacher marking work. It's intensely patronising.

Re: The "what on earth are tesco thinking" thread

Posted: Wed 24 Sep, 2008 16.54
by Stuart*
Sput wrote:It's got nothing to do with correctness, it's all to do with you praising members in the style of a primary school teacher marking work. It's intensely patronising.
I give you 2 out of 10 then Sput.
I know it's a disappointing response. But, try harder.

Re: The "what on earth are tesco thinking" thread

Posted: Wed 24 Sep, 2008 16.57
by Sput
StuartPlymouth wrote:
Sput wrote:It's got nothing to do with correctness, it's all to do with you praising members in the style of a primary school teacher marking work. It's intensely patronising.
I give you 2 out of 10 then Sput.
I know it's a disappointing response. But, try harder.
StuartPlymouth wrote:
Sput wrote:I only say what I need to.
That's still too much!
You're not being very consistent stu. Rather like how you try and belittle my education AND conciseness even though the way you've done it you utterly contradict yourself.

Re: The "what on earth are tesco thinking" thread

Posted: Wed 24 Sep, 2008 16.59
by James H
Of course, the grade boundaries on this forum are exceptionally low. So Sput still gets an A.

You, unfortunately, with your score of 0.00000001/10, have failed, and thus must fuck off the forum forever.

And don't even try and belittle my education. I've had more A's than you've had re-shapes in Madam Tussauds.

Re: The "what on earth are tesco thinking" thread

Posted: Wed 24 Sep, 2008 17.00
by Stuart*
Sput wrote:You're not being very consistent stu. Rather like how you try and belittle my education AND conciseness even though the way you've done it you utterly contradict yourself.
I haven't, but go ahead and do it yourself...even more...

Re: The "what on earth are tesco thinking" thread

Posted: Wed 24 Sep, 2008 17.01
by Sput
StuartPlymouth wrote:
Sput wrote:You're not being very consistent stu. Rather like how you try and belittle my education AND conciseness even though the way you've done it you utterly contradict yourself.
I haven't, but go ahead and do it yourself...
Haven't what?