Petrol protests

[Stuart*]

Of course I'm not, and neither are you. BUT do you consider a 4 min journey in heavy traffic (that stops and starts for most of that journey) to be reasonable by any stretch of the imagination?

I would consider the length of any journey through heavy traffic to be totally unacceptable. In view of the revenue from fuel duty and car tax I would expect the Government to spend the income on improving the road network to avoid such occurences in the first place.

Narrowing the city centre roads and placing unnecessary speed-bumps (as they have a predilection for in Plymouth) simply means the cars spend longer on the roads to complete their journey. Many of those who previously travelled 5 miles into the city centre to shop now drive 20 miles to the out-of-town superstore because it's quicker and they can park!

[cdd]

Why is a short journey more environmentally taxing per cap than a long one - surely the effect on the environment is directly proportional to long journeys?

[Jovis]

Not if you leave your engine on for all the stops in the traffic.

[Sput]

Not if you leave your engine on for all the stops in the traffic.

You're still using more in traffic because you're intentionally taking all your kinetic energy out via your brakes and then putting it all back in from your engine, instead of just losing some through friction.

I'll go and hide in my physics office again now...

[Lorns]

Cruising on a long journey is more fuel efficient and carbon efficient than stop and starting on short towny b-road journeys. My car cruises most efficiently at approx 65mph.

And while we're on the subject of heavy traffic. I wish more people would learn to decelerate on the motorway in stead of using the break.

[Sput]

That's how I should have said it! Good work Lorns!

Jovis: You said about turning the engine off. I said stop and start They have the same effect of course.

[Jamez]

First I've heard of this.

Yeah, the BBC isn't covering it.

Indeed, thin coverage if any at all on the subject. I wonder which Downing Street bod has been briefing editors, urging "caution" and not wanting to cause "alarm" or "panic" amongst the public. Well, they're the three buzz-words I would pick if I was a spin doctor.

That's exactly how it works. Especially when you have a culturally biased news organisation like the BBC which is happy to tow the left-wing government line and its pursuit of an anti-capitalist agenda.

It's all part of population mind control and social conditioning. It's probably worse now than anything under Hitler albeit executed much more shrewdly and gradually than anything that occurred in Nazi Germany. It won't be long before 'thought crime' is with us. Some argue that it's already here.

[Sput]

That's exactly how it works. Especially when you have a culturally biased news organisation like the BBC which is happy to tow the left-wing government line and its pursuit of an anti-capitalist agenda.

It's all part of population mind control and social conditioning. It's probably worse now than anything under Hitler albeit executed much more shrewdly and gradually than anything that occurred in Nazi Germany. It won't be long before 'thought crime' is with us. Some argue that it's already here.

Let's all take some anecdotal evidence and use it to prove a flakey point! Since they covered Apple's iPhone announcement, US launch and UK launch, Steve Jobs has made Huw Edwards his personal bitch.

How about this: Dragon's Den PROVES that investment bankers are running the whole organisation!

[Jamez]

The BBC is biased - anecdotal?

They've even said so themselves! Of course, you just need to look around their news site and watch their news channels to work that one out.

[Sput]

The BBC is biased - anecdotal?

They've even said so themselves! Of course, you just need to look around their news site and watch their news channels to work that one out.

You've gone a bit further than saying they lean left! That's not to mention the frankly paranoid ramble you went on in the second half of that post.

[Jamez]

Hehehe!

Paranoid eh?

You just wait.