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Posted: Tue 26 Sep, 2006 19.52
by MarkN
Rob Del Monte wrote:
Jenny wrote:
Gavin Scott wrote:

What the heck is that, and why do you do it?
Looks like a perfectly ordinary, common or garden interrobang to me. What's the problem‽
Indeed—(Em Dash)Is there a problem‽(Interrobang!)

Sorry, does using the proper punctuation, like '‽' as opposed to '?!', or a dash as opposed to a hypen-minus, or an ellipsis as opposed to three-dots corrupt the system, or something technical (above me :s)? Would you like me to stop? If so, does this ban extend to TVF?
So, your definition of ‘proper punctuation’ includes a non-standard character created by the boss of an American advertising agency in the 1960s, but does not extend to the ‘proper’ quotation marks (single: U+2018 and U+2019; double: U+201C and U+201D)?

Posted: Tue 26 Sep, 2006 20.35
by Rob Del Monte
MarkN wrote:
Rob Del Monte wrote:
Jenny wrote: Looks like a perfectly ordinary, common or garden interrobang to me. What's the problem‽
Indeed—(Em Dash)Is there a problem‽(Interrobang!)

Sorry, does using the proper punctuation, like '‽' as opposed to '?!', or a dash as opposed to a hypen-minus, or an ellipsis as opposed to three-dots corrupt the system, or something technical (above me :s)? Would you like me to stop? If so, does this ban extend to TVF?
So, your definition of ‘proper punctuation’ includes a non-standard character created by the boss of an American advertising agency in the 1960s, but does not extend to the ‘proper’ quotation marks (single: U+2018 and U+2019; double: U+201C and U+201D)?
I don’t bother with left-and-right quotes, because amidexterous (sp.?) ones’ purpose, are to be, well, amidexterous (sp.?). The interrobang is my personal preference. Indeed an interrobang isn’t proper, but it isn't incorrect according to my opinion, but like I said, my preference. The amidexterous (sp.?) quotes arn’t incorrect either, but when there is a glyph half an inch (‘″’, not ‘"’ or ‘”’ :-D!) away from my little-finger, I prefer to use it. In regards to the ellipsis, whilst dot, dot, dot is acceptable, again the proper glyph is my personal preference. Slightly inconsitant, yeah, but …. :P :lol:!

On my 'MySpace', and stuff that is permanent, I use the proper opening and closing quotes.

Also my typing habit is to use ‘'’ and ‘"’.

P.S.: As you can see, I used the proper glyphs for this message.

P.P.S.: I use ‘& # 8 2 1 6 ; ’/‘& l s q u o ; ’, for left single-quotes or inverted commas (‘’).
& # 8 2 1 7 ; ’/‘& r s q u o ; ’, for right single-quotes or inverted commas (‘’).
& # 8 2 2 0 ; ’/‘& l d q u o ; ’ for left double-quotes (‘’).
Finally ‘& # 8 2 2 1 ; ’/‘& r d q u o ; ’, for right double-quotes (‘’).
All codes are without the spaces. Don’t know if you understand that very complicated list :-s :oops: .

Posted: Tue 26 Sep, 2006 21.08
by Ant
I'm hoping it isn't just me who is confused by the past few posts in this thread.

Posted: Tue 26 Sep, 2006 21.41
by Gavin Scott
Let me make this perfectly plain:

The only symbol which is acceptable to indicate an interrogative is "?" (without the quotation marks).

I find any other symbols to be distracting and unclear. Moreover, when other members (like myself) have to ask what it means, it disrupts the flow of the discussion.

Please restrict your use of punctuation symbols to those which we were all taught in school.

This rule also applies to TV Forum.

Thank you.

Posted: Tue 26 Sep, 2006 23.13
by Rob Del Monte
Will do :-D!

No more interrobangs in here and TVF, just '?' and '!'. Am I still allowed to use the straight-forward, proper, universally-accepted-punctuation (and clear) ellipsis and dash glyphs ('…', '—' and '–' respectively)?

Back on topic:

Why do you look for ages for something, then a week later, when you've given up, you find it lurking in a draw, whilst routinely getting something else out, that's location you know of, you find the missing object from the week before, and quite often, the purpose you needed it for has been and past?! (not interrobang :p!)

Posted: Tue 26 Sep, 2006 23.52
by Gavin Scott
Regarding the name change to this thread:

Am I really a control freak, Bart? Have my actions alarmed you somehow?

Or, perhaps, are you seeking to provoke a response?

Posted: Tue 26 Sep, 2006 23.56
by B.E. El-Zebub
Gavin Scott wrote:Regarding the name change to this thread:

Am I really a control freak, Bart? Have my actions alarmed you somehow?

Or, perhaps, are you seeking to provoke a response?
Provoke a response?! Perish the thought?!

I merely wanted to voice my outrage at the shocking dictatorship that runs this forum.

Gavin, have you been taking soderation lessons from Horrace?

Banning the interrobang is the last straw as far as I am concerned.

Even Digital Spy allow the interrobang, although it has to be said that most DS members wouldn't know a punctuation mark if it hit them on the nose.

Posted: Wed 27 Sep, 2006 00.03
by Gavin Scott
Bartholomew Beelzebub wrote:
Gavin Scott wrote:Regarding the name change to this thread:

Am I really a control freak, Bart? Have my actions alarmed you somehow?

Or, perhaps, are you seeking to provoke a response?
Provoke a response?! Perish the thought?!

I merely wanted to voice my outrage at the shocking dictatorship that runs this forum.

Gavin, have you been taking soderation lessons from Horrace?

Banning the interrobang is the last straw as far as I am concerned.

Even Digital Spy allow the interrobang, even if most DS members wouldn't know a punctuation mark if it hit them on the nose.
It'll be a cold, cold day in hell when I start to take lessons from the Digital Spy forums.

I'm really very sorry that you feel that way, Bartholomew. I'll assume from the above that you would prefer me to terminate your membership.

What a shame.

Posted: Wed 27 Sep, 2006 00.07
by B.E. El-Zebub
Gavin Scott wrote:I'm really very sorry that you feel that way, Bartholomew. I'll assume from the above that you would prefer me to terminate your membership.

What a shame.
Ah, well, there's no need to go that far. I'm sure we can reach some accommodation.

Posted: Wed 27 Sep, 2006 00.10
by Sput
You know, Bart, some years ago Physicists performed an astonishing feat in building the Tunnelling Electron Microscope. This device exploits some of the most elegant and bizarre principles of quantum mechanics in order to probe individual electrons - particles so minute that even now, they are regarded as infinitessimal in size. Now to the point in hand. Even using this microscope, the scientific community would still be unable to locate any interest that anyone but yourself and del monte would have in that fucking symbol.

Posted: Wed 27 Sep, 2006 00.13
by B.E. El-Zebub
Sput wrote:the scientific community would still be unable to locate any interest that anyone but yourself and del monte would have in that fucking symbol.
Oh I couldn't give a toss about the interrobang either. I'm just a champion of human rights and free speech.