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Posted: Tue 12 Jul, 2005 11.48
by Nick Harvey
Picking up the point, earlier, about magazines. I don't specifically tear any adverts out of a magazine, but I certainly DO always shake a magazine over the bin before I read it, so all the loose-leaf rubbish that gets inserted along the way doesn't annoy me.

The Sky magazine is the worst culprit for loose-leaf anagrams of carp.

Posted: Tue 12 Jul, 2005 11.56
by Pete
I actually do that for customers whilst selling them the mags, if crap falls out I just toss it, nobody has yet complained.

Posted: Tue 12 Jul, 2005 12.20
by marksi
cdd wrote:
marksi wrote:Is it any more unethical than skipping the adverts when watching commercial channels via Sky+ or TiVO?
Aah, but note the fastest it can fast forward is 30X, not very fast if you think about it (you still get a good long time to see the ads). They must have thought that in.
My maths suggest that 30x speed means you'll see a 30" ad in 1 sec. In reality I reckon it's about 2 secs, but even so, it's hardly a "good long time".

Posted: Tue 12 Jul, 2005 13.24
by DJGM
But long enough to see what's being advertised . . .

Posted: Tue 12 Jul, 2005 20.58
by James Martin
I've nothing against banner adverts because they aren't really intrusive, and I see no need for them to be blocked.

Pop Up ads are highly intrusive, especially ones that bring a new one up when you exit the multitude of extra windows it creates.

I support removal of popups but not banner ads.

Posted: Tue 12 Jul, 2005 22.23
by DJGM
James Martin wrote: I've nothing against banner adverts because they aren't really
intrusive, and I see no need for them to be blocked.

I support removal of popups but not banner ads.
Are you absolutely sure about that?

You really don't find certain web ads intrusive?

Posted: Tue 12 Jul, 2005 22.42
by Dr Lobster*
i support the removal of all kinds of advert; additionally, if there is anyway one can get something for free then why not!

Posted: Tue 12 Jul, 2005 23.40
by Chris
DJGM wrote:
James Martin wrote: I've nothing against banner adverts because they aren't really intrusive, and I see no need for them to be blocked.

I support removal of popups but not banner ads.
Are you absolutely sure about that?

You really don't find certain web ads intrusive?
Is that your final answer?

Posted: Tue 12 Jul, 2005 23.54
by DJGM
And with that, James Martin's argument against blocking ad banners, is hereby torpedoed into oblivion!

Posted: Wed 13 Jul, 2005 00.58
by cdd
marksi wrote:
cdd wrote:
marksi wrote:Is it any more unethical than skipping the adverts when watching commercial channels via Sky+ or TiVO?
Aah, but note the fastest it can fast forward is 30X, not very fast if you think about it (you still get a good long time to see the ads). They must have thought that in.
My maths suggest that 30x speed means you'll see a 30" ad in 1 sec. In reality I reckon it's about 2 secs, but even so, it's hardly a "good long time".
Your math suggests right, but I can promise you it never ends up being that fast. Each ad seems to get its own 3 secs at least. Probably the extra time comes from the fact that Sky boxes freeze-frame bits while you're going through.

Nick -- through past experience, I find myself walking around the house with a magazine and finding I've left a trail of adverts in my wake. This is very bad for my privacy, I'm sure you'll agree. And NOBODY should at this point be making completely unfounded assumptions about the types of magazine I read....

Posted: Wed 13 Jul, 2005 01.29
by Fireboy
cdd wrote:
marksi wrote:
cdd wrote: Aah, but note the fastest it can fast forward is 30X, not very fast if you think about it (you still get a good long time to see the ads). They must have thought that in.
My maths suggest that 30x speed means you'll see a 30" ad in 1 sec. In reality I reckon it's about 2 secs, but even so, it's hardly a "good long time".
Your math suggests right, but I can promise you it never ends up being that fast. Each ad seems to get its own 3 secs at least. Probably the extra time comes from the fact that Sky boxes freeze-frame bits while you're going through.

Nick -- through past experience, I find myself walking around the house with a magazine and finding I've left a trail of adverts in my wake. This is very bad for my privacy, I'm sure you'll agree. And NOBODY should at this point be making completely unfounded assumptions about the types of magazine I read....
Lonely hearts? :lol: