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Posted: Tue 10 May, 2005 18.58
by cdd
And iE

Posted: Tue 10 May, 2005 20.34
by Jamez

Posted: Tue 10 May, 2005 20.47
by Pete
cdd wrote:And iE
well IE is a bit different isn't it what with being half the OS shell.

That lastest problem with Firefox is quite interesting not for the bug itself but for the way it was released. The guy who found it reported it properly using bugzilla and ticking the "hide me, I'm secret" button. Then while they were concocting a fix someone leaked it to that annoying secunia company who enjoy to spread paranoia and panic about every new bug in any piece of software.

"omg there is a theoretical problem in IE where you could have your computer taken over if you sit with your legs behind your back and piss through the eye of a needle" and then - as always - tell you to turn off javascript. You wonder why you should turn it back on with that company around.

Posted: Thu 12 May, 2005 20.54
by Neil Jones
Think I'll dump this in here:

http://www.mozilla.org/firefox - download Firefox 1.0.4, patch the security hole discussed in this thread and also some stuff to do with DHTML errors.

Posted: Fri 13 May, 2005 00.03
by cdd
These security holes are just so pedantic and stupid though.

1) I have everythign backed up so even if the worst came to the worst I wouldn't have lost a byte of data

2) The rampaging hackers who the media spends its life scaringus about would find absolutely NOTHING of interest on my machine.
In fact I have a theory that any hacker prowling my hard drive would die with boredom within five minutes.

Hence, I have no firewall, no anti-hacker software, no virus protection, etc. I've even disabled the stupid firewall on my router because it's just a bore. As long as reasonable care is taken you will NOT get a virus... simple as that. I mean, please; NOBODY opens EXE files appearing out of nowhere... similarly for doc, pif, scr, whatever. Anyone stupid enough to do so practically deserves to get a virus. Same goes for people who don't bother to back up.

Still, it's amazing how well Norton Total Security Suite sells :) And hey, if £150 or whatever disengages people's frantic paranoia about hackers then maybe it's worth it!

If ANYONE can justify to me why I would need a firewall, then I'll quite happily RUN to the shop and buy one... but until then I'm quite happy using my computer to play games, browse the internet, play music, record TV programmes and write word documents, thank you very much.

Posted: Fri 13 May, 2005 01.00
by Fireboy
The ammount of stuff my little brother's computer has picked up since I formatted the HD (5 days ago) is amazing. And that's with 2 firewalls and Firefox... oh and that funny Microsoft AntiSpyware thing. Makes me even more glad I use a Mac. :?

Posted: Fri 13 May, 2005 07.33
by cdd
Fireboy wrote:The ammount of stuff my little brother's computer has picked up since I formatted the HD (5 days ago) is amazing. And that's with 2 firewalls and Firefox... oh and that funny Microsoft AntiSpyware thing. Makes me even more glad I use a Mac. :?
Aaaah, little brothers... yes, that's amazing isn't it, they're like a magnet for rubbish on computers. I simply make a policy of not allowing my brother to use mine!

Posted: Fri 13 May, 2005 16.44
by Pete
cdd wrote:These security holes are just so pedantic and stupid though.

1) I have everythign backed up so even if the worst came to the worst I wouldn't have lost a byte of data

2) The rampaging hackers who the media spends its life scaringus about would find absolutely NOTHING of interest on my machine.
In fact I have a theory that any hacker prowling my hard drive would die with boredom within five minutes.

Hence, I have no firewall, no anti-hacker software, no virus protection, etc. I've even disabled the stupid firewall on my router because it's just a bore. As long as reasonable care is taken you will NOT get a virus... simple as that. I mean, please; NOBODY opens EXE files appearing out of nowhere... similarly for doc, pif, scr, whatever. Anyone stupid enough to do so practically deserves to get a virus. Same goes for people who don't bother to back up.

Still, it's amazing how well Norton Total Security Suite sells :) And hey, if £150 or whatever disengages people's frantic paranoia about hackers then maybe it's worth it!

If ANYONE can justify to me why I would need a firewall, then I'll quite happily RUN to the shop and buy one... but until then I'm quite happy using my computer to play games, browse the internet, play music, record TV programmes and write word documents, thank you very much.
who was it who got spyware a day after posting that the last time?

Posted: Sat 14 May, 2005 10.11
by harshy
You should have just got AVG cdd, it's free then use Spybot and Spyware Blaster and CCleaner, that does the trick.