Posted: Sun 24 Apr, 2005 18.49
Open Office is much better than MSWord, IMO, plus it's free.Chris Turnbull wrote: (Especialy since MS word is acting up, Again)
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Posted: Sun 24 Apr, 2005 19.48
I really don't think I can be arsed.
I asked one of my - admittedly entirely computer illiterate - flatmates and after demonstrating it the response I recieved was '60 quid for a few little stick notes? fuck off'.
Note to those buying: if you can, remember to go through the Higher Education store and it'll be cheaper.
I am not really tempted by anything it has. I might upgrade, but i'm going to see the reaction of people. I'm happy with everything as it is at the moment. I can't see the point in RSS for me, or Spotlight or even the mail improvements... i am not the sort of psychopath who files everything away in a little folder.
It's hardly like it's going to improve stability or something. I've had about one crash in 4 months.
I asked one of my - admittedly entirely computer illiterate - flatmates and after demonstrating it the response I recieved was '60 quid for a few little stick notes? fuck off'.
Note to those buying: if you can, remember to go through the Higher Education store and it'll be cheaper.
I am not really tempted by anything it has. I might upgrade, but i'm going to see the reaction of people. I'm happy with everything as it is at the moment. I can't see the point in RSS for me, or Spotlight or even the mail improvements... i am not the sort of psychopath who files everything away in a little folder.
It's hardly like it's going to improve stability or something. I've had about one crash in 4 months.
Posted: Sun 24 Apr, 2005 20.05
Unfortunately, the Mac OS X port of OpenOffice (which required X11 to work) was ridiculously bloated, slow as hell,
and has (thankfully) been discontinued. There's a similar project called NeoOffice, which is a clone of OpenOffice
made to run on Mac OS X. It doesn't require X11, but does require Java. On my Power Macintosh G3, even with
a total of 512MB RAM installed, it's quite slow to work, but not nearly as slow as OpenOffice was!
Meanwhile . . . I don't know if Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger will be installable on any of my Macs. For one thing, Tiger will
be distributed exclusively on DVD-ROM as opposed to a set of 3 or 4 CD-ROM's. Any Mac OS X user wanting to
upgrade to Tiger, that doesn't have a DVD drive installed on their Mac will first have to buy Tiger on DVD,
then use the Media Exchange Program, to swap it for a set of CD's. This won't be free either. There'll
be a shipping and handling charge of £11.99 to be able to exchange your Tiger discs.
Now, if I purchase Tiger, then swap the DVD for CD's, I may be able to get it installed on my Power Macintosh G3
with the use of XPostFacto. But it'll more than likely be out of the question on my Bondi Blue G3 iMac, unless I
upgrade the amount of installed RAM from the current 256MB to about 512MB. Since that particular machine
is a real nightmare to upgrade physical components, it looks highly likely that it'll end up becoming a fancy
looking Linux box, running Kubuntu Linux 5.04 (Ubuntu with KDE instead of GNOME) for PPC instead!
and has (thankfully) been discontinued. There's a similar project called NeoOffice, which is a clone of OpenOffice
made to run on Mac OS X. It doesn't require X11, but does require Java. On my Power Macintosh G3, even with
a total of 512MB RAM installed, it's quite slow to work, but not nearly as slow as OpenOffice was!
Meanwhile . . . I don't know if Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger will be installable on any of my Macs. For one thing, Tiger will
be distributed exclusively on DVD-ROM as opposed to a set of 3 or 4 CD-ROM's. Any Mac OS X user wanting to
upgrade to Tiger, that doesn't have a DVD drive installed on their Mac will first have to buy Tiger on DVD,
then use the Media Exchange Program, to swap it for a set of CD's. This won't be free either. There'll
be a shipping and handling charge of £11.99 to be able to exchange your Tiger discs.
Now, if I purchase Tiger, then swap the DVD for CD's, I may be able to get it installed on my Power Macintosh G3
with the use of XPostFacto. But it'll more than likely be out of the question on my Bondi Blue G3 iMac, unless I
upgrade the amount of installed RAM from the current 256MB to about 512MB. Since that particular machine
is a real nightmare to upgrade physical components, it looks highly likely that it'll end up becoming a fancy
looking Linux box, running Kubuntu Linux 5.04 (Ubuntu with KDE instead of GNOME) for PPC instead!
Posted: Sun 24 Apr, 2005 22.42
I dislike Java full stop which is one of the reasons for my dislike of oo
Admittedly I haven't tried v. 2 but as I've heard it's even more java based I'm not even tempted to.
Admittedly I haven't tried v. 2 but as I've heard it's even more java based I'm not even tempted to.
Posted: Sun 24 Apr, 2005 23.10
Wouldn't it just be easier to get a new computer?DJGM wrote:Unfortunately, the Mac OS X port of OpenOffice (which required X11 to work) was ridiculously bloated, slow as hell,
and has (thankfully) been discontinued. There's a similar project called NeoOffice, which is a clone of OpenOffice
made to run on Mac OS X. It doesn't require X11, but does require Java. On my Power Macintosh G3, even with
a total of 512MB RAM installed, it's quite slow to work, but not nearly as slow as OpenOffice was!
Meanwhile . . . I don't know if Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger will be installable on any of my Macs. For one thing, Tiger will
be distributed exclusively on DVD-ROM as opposed to a set of 3 or 4 CD-ROM's. Any Mac OS X user wanting to
upgrade to Tiger, that doesn't have a DVD drive installed on their Mac will first have to buy Tiger on DVD,
then use the Media Exchange Program, to swap it for a set of CD's. This won't be free either. There'll
be a shipping and handling charge of £15 to be able to exchange your Tiger discs.
Now, if I purchase Tiger, then swap the DVD for CD's, I may be able to get it installed on my Power Macintosh G3
with the use of XPostFacto. But it'll more than likely be out of the question on my Bondi Blue G3 iMac, unless I
upgrade the amount of installed RAM from the current 256MB to about 512MB. Since that particular machine
is a real nightmare to upgrade physical components, it looks highly likely that it'll end up becoming a fancy
looking Linux box, running Kubuntu Linux 5.04 (Ubuntu with KDE instead of GNOME) for PPC instead!
Posted: Mon 25 Apr, 2005 00.04
If I was still unemployed, I'd have replied . . . "Why, are you going to buy me one?" . . . but since I've been in gainfulFireboy wrote: Wouldn't it just be easier to get a new computer?
full-time employment for just over three months now, I plan to get meself one of those snazzy little Mac mini's soon.
Eitherway, it should be interesting (for me at least) to see if I can get Tiger installed on my PowerMac G3 (which
cost me the grand total of nowt when I acquired it last year) since I managed to Panther running on it. Especially,
since the aforementioned OS wasn't designed to run on that particular model, nor do Apple support doing so!
Funnily enough, according to official Apple spec, the beige PowerMac G3 machines are only supposed to be able to
support a maximum of 384MB of RAM, yet this one I'm using to post this message right now, has 512MB RAM on it!
Go figure . . . !
(Try to get WinXP running on a PC of equal age (about 7-8 years) without a serious amount of physical upgrading!)
Posted: Mon 25 Apr, 2005 07.18
oooooh, What a classic.DJGM wrote:...Eitherway, it should be interesting (for me at least) to see if I can get Tiger installed on my PowerMac G3 (which
cost me the grand total of nowt when I acquired it last year) since I managed to Panther running on it. Especially,
since the aforementioned OS wasn't designed to run on that particular model, nor do Apple support doing so!
Funnily enough, according to official Apple spec, the beige PowerMac G3 machines are only supposed to be able to
support a maximum of 384MB of RAM, yet this one I'm using to post this message right now, has 512MB RAM on it!
Go figure . . . !
(Try to get WinXP running on a PC of equal age (about 7-8 years) without a serious amount of physical upgrading!)
I've considered buying old Macs and upgrading them, but didn't think it was possably. Glad to see i was wrong!
Any of you OSX users used ShapeShifter (A kaleideoscope like theme changer fro OSX) yet? I've used it on a nd off for the last few years whenever I feel like a change of GUI.
Posted: Sat 30 Apr, 2005 20.49
So, Tiger is unleashed! And I have a stupid question:
I want to get a Mac Mini, will this now come with OSX Tiger and not Panther? My reason for asking is that both the Product page, and store page of the apple website still say that it comes with Panther and iLife, any ideas? Im guessing it does come with Tiger, but i need some backup before I take the plunge!
I want to get a Mac Mini, will this now come with OSX Tiger and not Panther? My reason for asking is that both the Product page, and store page of the apple website still say that it comes with Panther and iLife, any ideas? Im guessing it does come with Tiger, but i need some backup before I take the plunge!
Posted: Sat 30 Apr, 2005 21.38
Try calling the Apple Store (0800-039-1010) to find out. The Mac Mini product page has probably just not been updated yet though.Andrew Muir wrote:So, Tiger is unleashed! And I have a stupid question:
I want to get a Mac Mini, will this now come with OSX Tiger and not Panther? My reason for asking is that both the Product page, and store page of the apple website still say that it comes with Panther and iLife, any ideas? Im guessing it does come with Tiger, but i need some backup before I take the plunge!