Posted: Wed 31 Mar, 2004 21.42
AOL is giving the Netscape browser away for free.Dr Sigmund Mohammad wrote:Nobody wants to pay for a browser when a completely usable one comes with all but the most basic of operating systems.
AOL is giving the Netscape browser away for free.Dr Sigmund Mohammad wrote:Nobody wants to pay for a browser when a completely usable one comes with all but the most basic of operating systems.
I'm sorry to say this, but not even Microsoft wants you to use the Microsoft Virtual Machine: http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/Neil Jones wrote:Good for them, though I find Sun Java very much slower than MS's offering I have to say.Meanwhile, when Netscape 7.0 came out, the full installation was around 30MB, and that included 3rd party optional stuff such as Sun's Java VM, RealPlayer and Winamp.
What I mean't is that given AOL is having some financial difficulty, the only way they could make developing the browser viable is to sell it in someway. It does not make any sense for AOL to continue developing Netscape. I can't see any way in which it would pay for itself, especially since from what I last heard, AOL don't have any plans to port their protcol suite and client software to non-Windows operating systems.DJGM wrote:Netscape is not included with the AOL client software. It's a standalone download from Netscape.com.
And you don't pay a penny for it. It's free. Oh and BTW, the AOL client software actually bundles IE.
But it takes *ages* to start up. Even firefox which I assume shares much of the same page rendering code cuts startup time significantly. The problem is with Netscape.DJGM wrote: Netscape is not a bloat ridden browser. It's not just a browser, it's a fully fledged internet application
suite, complete with other components, such as e-mail and chat, just like the Mozilla App-Suite. In
fact, Netscape has been offered as an application suite since the first version of Ns Communicator
was released back in 1997. The only difference between the Mozilla 1.x and Netscape browser
suites, is that Mozilla 1.x doesn't include the AOL Instant Messenger, or integration with
the Netscape Webmail service. And of course, if you select a custom install of either
suite, you can de-select the optional components you don't want to install.
No it isn't. IE uses components already resident in memory that Windows Explorer uses to render folder views. You will actually find that the number of files that make up a core Internet Explorer installation to total only a few MB. Everything else is already there with Windows.DJGM wrote: Essentially, the only really bloat ridden browser currently available, is Internet Explorer 6.0 SP1.
Although the perfect situation is where you use CSS for all formatting and layout, I do have a certain feeling of empathy when people say that some things are more difficult to do using CSS (at present) than HTML.Peter suggested I make my next websites in completely standards compliant and valid XHTML. All I can say is that it was a long, difficult slog. Some things just wouldn't work - vertical centering was impossible. Other things only worked in the obscure browsers and needed 'hacks' to fix them for Internet Explorer.
If you wish to go down the transitional route, use as much CSS as you are comfortable with. For instance, use CSS to set colours, font sizes, widths, heights etc. but use HTML for those things that you find difficult to do at present, for instance "valign". Then, when your CSS skills have improved, you can use the CSS method instead.From: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/
XHTML 1.0 Transitional - Many people writing Web pages for the general public to access might want to use this flavor of XHTML 1.0. The idea is to take advantage of XHTML features including style sheets but nonetheless to make small adjustments to your markup for the benefit of those viewing your pages with older browsers which can't understand style sheets. These include using the body element with bgcolor, text and link attributes.
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN">
...snip...
<p><font face="Arial">Text</font></p>
...snip...
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN">
...snip...
<style type="text/css">
p { font-family: Arial, sans-serif }
</style>
...snip...
<p>Text</p>
...snip...
Usually for one (or more) of the following reasons:cwathen wrote:Today the modern hallmark seems to be using an alternative browser. No geek could possibly be seen dead using IE, the browser of the ordinary people. No, they must use Mozilla, or Firebird, or JHIOEDAF-Browse that's only available in source code so they've compiled their own binary - very often for no other reason than to tell other people that they don't use IE but use <x obscure browser> instead.
Disclaimer: The content contained within these links does not necessarily reflect my own opinion. They have been provided purely to show the opinion of other people.Flava wrote:I'm not sure quite what Microsoft have done wrong though.
cwathen wrote:Today the modern hallmark seems to be using an alternative browser. No geek could possibly be seen dead using IE, the browser of the ordinary people. No, they must use Mozilla, or Firebird, or JHIOEDAF-Browse that's only available in source code so they've compiled their own binary - very often for no other reason than to tell other people that they don't use IE but use <x obscure browser> instead.
Interesting. I currently use Opera for an 18th reason: my IE seems to have corrupted and I've not been able to repair it.MarkN wrote:Usually for one (or more) of the following reasons:
1-17...
Well basically my main reasons are thus.Flava wrote:I'm not sure quite what Microsoft have done wrong though.