Building A Computer

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Sput
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cat wrote:
Sput wrote:My $0.02 worth:
You shouldn't go throwing their money about like that, Sput.

I've heard they're having some financial problems over there. Having to ask for foreign aid and stuff. Awful business.
That's the legendary nature of the situation - we are now able to buy many a dollar for a penny!

And chris - while it IS keyed it's hard to tell if it's quite in, and it's when you get it only half in the wrong way round that you have the burning sensation :)
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Don't use one of those fancy magnetic screw drivers either... they damage the circuits.
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J.Christie wrote:Now I'm into ICT, but not knowing how to build a PC isn't a good thing.

I was hoping that one or some of you could help or tell me what the basics procedures into building a PC (i.e. What do you need, where does it go etc.)

Thanks
At a very basic level, it's quite hard to get the various bits in the wrong places.

In all honesty, there's only one place the motherboard can go. Typical downfall is not putting the metal standoffs in the right place beforehand; they can and often do kill the board.

The optical drive (CD/DVD) usually goes at the very top in the bay and sticks out the front. A second drive can go two down from it, case pending.

Floppy disks usually go in the smaller bay about halfway down and again sticks out the front.

Hard Drives usually go about halfway up from the bottom in the same bays as the floppy and have no need to be accessed from the front of the case.

Everything else plugs into the motherboard. Graphics normally into the grey rectangle halfway up (AGP), though the trend is that these are on the way out and newer boards have PCI Express, which is separate.

Expansion cards (sound, modems, firewire, TV cards, LAN, Wireless, etc) go in the white slots (PCI). Add extra functionality, this is where it'll go, in one of these slots. Most often you only add what you don't have already though it's possible to have multiple LAN ports (onboard and a separate one) on your computer if you really want.

There's also a long black rectangle which you'll see on older boards called ISA.
This has long been phased out.

On the board itself is usually obvious where everything goes if you refer to the manual. Front panel connectors and lights just don't work if they're not wired up correctly, nothing damaging. Same with front USB and front firewire. Front panel audio wired up wrongly disables all sound.

Hope this helps. Do ask again if you want more clarification/help.
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As a friend of mine once observed - putting all the hardware together is easy, actually making it do anything after that is quite another.

If you feel competent enough to install Windows (a proper installation that is, no 'restore' CDs) to a completely clean (i.e. unpartioned) hard drive, then you've allready got 90% of the knowledge you need to build your own PC.

The other 9% comes in being able to select components that are compatible with each other, and the remaining 1% is actually building it - modern PCs more or less slot together on an 'if it doesn't fit, it's the wrong place' basis.

It's a far cry from the 'Baby AT' days where you had to connect up a double isolated mains power switch yourself, and when power to the motherboard was delivered by two identical looking connectors, but with only a single correct place for each one (how many motherboards got fried by people who didn't know the 'black cables go together' rule I hate to think).
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babyben wrote:Google is a hive of knowledge for building your own PC.

http://www.buildyourown.org.uk/ would be a good site for you. :)

My advice is to remember not to touch anything inside a PC without earthing yourself, either by one of those funny wristband things or touching a radiator or something. Oh, and unplug it first too :lol:
J.Christie wrote: Thanks Salty and Chris for the only helpful posts in this thread. Really I'm only wondering how to do it, it's not for a purpose.
:?: :cry:
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babyben wrote:
babyben wrote:Google is a hive of knowledge for building your own PC.

http://www.buildyourown.org.uk/ would be a good site for you. :)

My advice is to remember not to touch anything inside a PC without earthing yourself, either by one of those funny wristband things or touching a radiator or something. Oh, and unplug it first too :lol:
J.Christie wrote: Thanks Salty and Chris for the only helpful posts in this thread. Really I'm only wondering how to do it, it's not for a purpose.
:?: :cry:
And you, babyben. And Neil.
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cwathen wrote:It's a far cry from the 'Baby AT' days where you had to connect up a double isolated mains power switch yourself,
Are you sure about that? I never once came across a time you had to actually connect the switch to the PSU - although you were often required to install the switch in the case
cwathen wrote: and when power to the motherboard was delivered by two identical looking connectors, but with only a single correct place for each one (how many motherboards got fried by people who didn't know the 'black cables go together' rule I hate to think).
I like the feeling of nostalgia you're instilling :)
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Sput wrote:
cwathen wrote:It's a far cry from the 'Baby AT' days where you had to connect up a double isolated mains power switch yourself,
Are you sure about that? I never once came across a time you had to actually connect the switch to the PSU - although you were often required to install the switch in the case
Older power supplies of the type Chris was talking about were indeed hard-wired in this fashion.

They used a physical switch to make contact to tell the PSU to turn on, then another one to turn off again.
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Neil Jones wrote:They used a physical switch to make contact to tell the PSU to turn on, then another one to turn off again.
Yes, but I never came across one where the switch wasn't already connected, although I'm sure it's feasible considering the connectors were only screwed in.
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