All I'm interested is discussing impartiality and disinformation, which I was attempting to do until I managed to piss off the usual suspects, including Brekkie because of the hypocrisy some members have when it comes to discussing editorial on TVF.Alan de Robson wrote: ↑Mon 01 Mar, 2021 13.44 Martin, I am sorry to burst your bubble and this is not meant personally but no-one gives a shit about your political views.
No-one wants you or Brekkie or anyone else to hijack presentation threads with political spam. It's not what the forum is about and that's why the moderators and other members, myself included, are coming down hard on it.
I want to hear your thoughts and input about TV presentation on TV Forum but nothing else.
Metropol247 is a perfectly good place to have those discussions and it surprises me that not more people use it. I and many others would no doubt gladly debate you on here. In fact, why not start up a thread now called "Perceived bias in British media" and you can post away to your heart's content about it as can Brekkie and others.
In case you don't know, there was originally a sub-forum on TVF called "The Lounge" which was a general discussion forum. Metropol247 was its replacement. I can't remember what it was that got "The Lounge" taken down but it was a very popular and lively forum. To make MP247 the same (and I wish it was because the Lounge could be brilliant at times), I would love you (and me) and others to post more here.
If you mention bias when it comes to a right-wing outlet, then you get the right-winger members who get wound up, then if I post about bias towards another that is more of the liberal persuasion, then you're going to wind up Brekkie and others who may support more socialist policies. So if I post with an observation which was complete fact about Nigel Farage which was a classic piece of disinformation which was confirmed later by The Home Office on twitter, you're going to annoy someone because of their own perception of what is biased.
It should be possible to discuss sensibly bias and disinformation of a media outlet as part of presentation (editorial is as much part of presentation as much as an aston) without it being a slanging match, that was one of the reasons why the GB News threads continually get locked because they then get political without others being able to see where the tv channel or radio station has got it wrong without bringing politics into it.
Mentioning that Nigel Farage was able to spread disinformation is as much an editorial error as much as Owen Jones spouting nonsense on Sky News.