Brexit
- tillyoshea
- Posts: 365
- Joined: Sun 23 Nov, 2003 14.34
- Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
- Contact:
You can join the army at 16 with parental consent, but can only be deployed in hostile situations at 18. I get that army personnell aren't only in danger in pre-identified hostile situations, but equally it's not like there aren't special protections for people below the voting age.
What a completely embarrassing shambles. It'll be very interesting to see what the next few days brings - I cannot see a path forward that won't result in a large proportion of Parliament and the public being dissatisfied. The EU are being pretty firm that they will not negotiate further.
-
- Posts: 1967
- Joined: Sun 13 Feb, 2005 00.04
- Location: Next door to Hell
I think an election is the only way forward. Tories can stand on a manifesto that involves taking us out of the EU (led by a real Brexit leader), Labour can pledge to stay in. Whoever wins then has the mandate to proceed. Chance to put the arguments forward throughout the campaign and people to make an informed decision. Bosh.
-
- Posts: 630
- Joined: Fri 15 Aug, 2003 13.38
The Tories wouldn't be able to stand on a mandate of leaving the EU because they can't agree amongst themselves how it should happen. Also it's a topic that doesn't fit neatly within typical party allegiances.all new Phil wrote: ↑Mon 10 Dec, 2018 22.11 I think an election is the only way forward. Tories can stand on a manifesto that involves taking us out of the EU (led by a real Brexit leader), Labour can pledge to stay in. Whoever wins then has the mandate to proceed. Chance to put the arguments forward throughout the campaign and people to make an informed decision. Bosh.
-
- Posts: 1967
- Joined: Sun 13 Feb, 2005 00.04
- Location: Next door to Hell
All very true, but I think there needs to be a definitive stance by each party for the sake of moving things along. And I don’t mean the Tories’ power stance. The problem right now is that the Tories are split, and Labour are sitting on the fence. Getting a plan in their respective manifestos means at least they’re pledging a set path rather than trying to satisfy “the will of the people”, which none of them can agree on. Sure there will be MPs who don’t agree, but there are plenty in each party who don’t agree with the official line on plenty of things. Why should the EU be different to those?Square Eyes wrote: ↑Mon 10 Dec, 2018 22.48The Tories wouldn't be able to stand on a mandate of leaving the EU because they can't agree amongst themselves how it should happen. Also it's a topic that doesn't fit neatly within typical party allegiances.all new Phil wrote: ↑Mon 10 Dec, 2018 22.11 I think an election is the only way forward. Tories can stand on a manifesto that involves taking us out of the EU (led by a real Brexit leader), Labour can pledge to stay in. Whoever wins then has the mandate to proceed. Chance to put the arguments forward throughout the campaign and people to make an informed decision. Bosh.