The next big leader?

Alexia
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Sun 17 Jul, 2016 23.26

barcode wrote:Many leave people never voted for that reason,
No. Most were ignorant, illinformed, reactionary xenophobic turkeys voting for Xmas.
barcode
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Sun 17 Jul, 2016 23.42

Alexia wrote:
barcode wrote:Many leave people never voted for that reason,
No. Most were ignorant, illinformed, reactionary xenophobic turkeys voting for Xmas.
That is your opinion and that of the media which are very happy to drive this awful point home, by marking sure there find people to fit the bill.

Alas it seems this thread is heading for a nasty downward spiral where nothing useful, constructive or even serving any useful purpose is postage and people just complain and highlighting points which are no good for anyone. I suggest we just move on to the crap Labour leadership contest.

That might just end up the same since since both are bloody awful and would also fail.
Steve in Pudsey
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Tue 19 Jul, 2016 08.53

barcode wrote:Many leave people never voted for that reason,
Even if many didn't, the vote was so close that if a few percent did vote based on those deliberate attempts to mislead the electorate it could have materially affected the outcome.
barcode
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Tue 19 Jul, 2016 09.57

Stay said lies aswell about a number of things which were never going to happen but have now appeared.

Before the awful death of Cox it seems the polling was around 56-44.
Critique
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Wed 20 Jul, 2016 12.18

The thing with the Remain campaign though is that it's harder to blame them for lying as-such because the uncertainty of leaving the EU means that no-one knows what is/was going to happen. On a number of points this is also true of the Leave campaign, but things like the bus also said things that were not true at the time and not true now - unsurprisingly no-one is kicking the Remain campaign for suggesting the world would end if we voted Leave as it hasn't (well not completely anyway), as that would suggest you want the world to end.
Charlie Wells
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Wed 20 Jul, 2016 14.09

On a more general note I couldn't help noticing this statistic in a recent edition of Private Eye...
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"If ass holes could fly then this place would be an airport."
robschneider
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Thu 21 Jul, 2016 01.39

Those 12 million have no right to throw their toys out either way, frankly. This wasn't a vote which one could happily abstain from "None of the above" - it was a straight "stay" or "go" vote. Nobody who was physically able to do so had a reason not to vote.

I have to laugh, in other news, at Corbyn wailing about new members having to pay up £25 quid to vote for him as leader. This is a man who has no real support other than students (who are always first to dedicate themselves to some wanky cause) and layabouts who feel the state should keep them in a living so they can play Pokemon Go all day rather than go to work. This is a man who refuses to sing God Save The Queen but will sing The Red Flag happily. He is making a mockery of Her Majesty's Most Loyal Opposition and I - as a staunch right-winger - think the entire democratic system is better off with him gone. Parties should win because their policies are good, not because the oppo is still debating what biscuits to put out on the picket lines of the Miner's Strike.
bilky asko
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Thu 21 Jul, 2016 08.14

robschneider wrote:This is a man who has no real support other than students (who are always first to dedicate themselves to some wanky cause) and layabouts who feel the state should keep them in a living so they can play Pokemon Go all day rather than go to work.
Are these demographics you've measured in a scientific manner or ones you've pulled out of your arse?
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robschneider
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Thu 21 Jul, 2016 17.43

He's in favour of nuclear disarmament (leaving us open to Putin nuking us) handouts for all and the gates open for any Tom, Dick or Abdul.

Everything pink-haired, tattooed-up, every body part going pierced students just love.
bilky asko
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Thu 21 Jul, 2016 19.16

robschneider wrote:He's in favour of nuclear disarmament (leaving us open to Putin nuking us) handouts for all and the gates open for any Tom, Dick or Abdul.

Everything pink-haired, tattooed-up, every body part going pierced students just love.
Out of your arse it is then.
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robschneider
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Thu 21 Jul, 2016 20.05

If you wish.
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