Lib Dem diehards I have on Facebook are getting really offended by the suggestion that they're jumping on a bandwagon. Apparently it doesn't count if it's a popular bandwagon...james2001 wrote:And now the Lib Dems are saying they're going to campaign on reversing the decision! http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ign=buffer
The BIG MetroPoll - IN or OUT ?
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Loving watching the Labour party collapse in real time. Bye bye Jezza, bye bye.
Tory party will suffer same fate soon enough. None of the Vote Leave bigwigs seem inclined to push the Article 50 Big Red Button any time soon. That will lead to recriminations from the more hawkish backbenchers, defections to UKIP, the pro-Remain wing of the party re-asserting itself and the Tories losing power (or at the very least losing their majority). There will need to be a snap general election, at least two of the main parties will stand on a platform of either a) ignoring the referendum or b) re-running the referendum. If a Labour (whatever colour) / LibDem / SNP coalition gets in with a promise of Home Rule, then what?
Alexia wrote:Tory party will suffer same fate soon enough. None of the Vote Leave bigwigs seem inclined to push the Article 50 Big Red Button any time soon. That will lead to recriminations from the more hawkish backbenchers, defections to UKIP, the pro-Remain wing of the party re-asserting itself and the Tories losing power (or at the very least losing their majority). There will need to be a snap general election, at least two of the main parties will stand on a platform of either a) ignoring the referendum or b) re-running the referendum. If a Labour (whatever colour) / LibDem / SNP coalition gets in with a promise of Home Rule, then what?
That Snap election which can only happen if a vote of no confidence is put into motion, is very unlikely to happen this year, the most likeliest time is next May, to clear the air and give everyone enough time. Its possible everyone expect ukip will lose seats
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Well its kind of true, No10 should have had a plan, there the ones in power. There the one in charge. No matter what leave said there were never able to do anything....
Try Positive Thinking .......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0nX4J8qP3c
Jumping on a bandwagon implies a change of views to suit the mood of the moment. On the contrary, this is completely consistent with the party that described itself at the last EP elections as "the party of in". There is no hypocrisy here.bilky asko wrote:Lib Dem diehards I have on Facebook are getting really offended by the suggestion that they're jumping on a bandwagon. Apparently it doesn't count if it's a popular bandwagon...james2001 wrote:And now the Lib Dems are saying they're going to campaign on reversing the decision! http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ign=buffer
The Lib Dems will do well as a result of this. Unlike the other parties, there is almost no appetite for Leave among their potential voters.
Absolutely. The leading Leave figures are going to be burdened by the weight of whatever decisions they make thanks to Cameron's decision to hold off on Article 50. The Remain figures will not command the unity of the party. The leadership election will be divisive.Alexia wrote:Tory party will suffer same fate soon enough. None of the Vote Leave bigwigs seem inclined to push the Article 50 Big Red Button any time soon. That will lead to recriminations from the more hawkish backbenchers, defections to UKIP, the pro-Remain wing of the party re-asserting itself and the Tories losing power (or at the very least losing their majority). There will need to be a snap general election, at least two of the main parties will stand on a platform of either a) ignoring the referendum or b) re-running the referendum. If a Labour (whatever colour) / LibDem / SNP coalition gets in with a promise of Home Rule, then what?
I disagree strongly. There will be pressure upon the new leader to invoke article 50 and lead the country out of the EU. No politician wants that legacy and all the potential ramifications of that, unless perhaps they have a mandate from the public to do exactly that.barcode wrote:Alexia wrote:Tory party will suffer same fate soon enough. None of the Vote Leave bigwigs seem inclined to push the Article 50 Big Red Button any time soon. That will lead to recriminations from the more hawkish backbenchers, defections to UKIP, the pro-Remain wing of the party re-asserting itself and the Tories losing power (or at the very least losing their majority). There will need to be a snap general election, at least two of the main parties will stand on a platform of either a) ignoring the referendum or b) re-running the referendum. If a Labour (whatever colour) / LibDem / SNP coalition gets in with a promise of Home Rule, then what?
That Snap election which can only happen if a vote of no confidence is put into motion, is very unlikely to happen this year, the most likeliest time is next May, to clear the air and give everyone enough time. Its possible everyone expect ukip will lose seats
They will either seek a general election straight away or not at all. They wont hold off until May as they will more or less shut down Westminster for 8 months (on top of a 2/3 month leadership campaign) as a result.
Doesn't the Queen still have the option of dissolving Parliament and forcing an election if the current government are seen to be unable to organise themselves?
I know this would be extraordinary, and going against her 'non-interference' aim, but these are extraordinary times, and we can't run a country with the top two parties both in civil war amongst themselves.
I know this would be extraordinary, and going against her 'non-interference' aim, but these are extraordinary times, and we can't run a country with the top two parties both in civil war amongst themselves.