2015 UK Election

barcode · Mon 09 Mar, 2015 16.50

Of course

Does anyone else have any others?

IT must be said ED wont be in the pocket of Alex, since Trident will go thourgh since the Tories would vote for it, I bet some other stuff would get past thanks to the Tories.

Gavin Scott · Mon 09 Mar, 2015 21.34

barcode wrote:IT must be said ED wont be in the pocket of Alex, since Trident will go thourgh since the Tories would vote for it, I bet some other stuff would get past thanks to the Tories.

You do tend to proclaim things as absolute facts when actually there's a lot of unknowns in the equation. Just a casual observation.

By which I mean stop it.

barcode · Mon 09 Mar, 2015 23.12

Gavin Scott wrote:
barcode wrote:IT must be said ED wont be in the pocket of Alex, since Trident will go thourgh since the Tories would vote for it, I bet some other stuff would get past thanks to the Tories.
You do tend to proclaim things as absolute facts when actually there's a lot of unknowns in the equation. Just a casual observation.
By which I mean stop it.

Really?
* http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 94605.html
* http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ion-labour
* http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... abour.html

Nicola Sturgeon has dropped demands that a minority Labour government must cancel a new Trident nuclear weapon in return for the Scottish National party’s backing at Westminster.

Labour has now pledged to renew it: http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/ ... 1425829624

This does mean Labour would try and push throw a new trident deal and you would be draft not to believe the tories supporting the bill to get it though.

Unless your comment was about my comment about ed wont being in Alex pocket?

Gavin Scott · Tue 10 Mar, 2015 00.14

barcode wrote:This does mean Labour would try and push throw a new trident deal and you would be draft not to believe the tories supporting the bill to get it though.

Unless your comment was about my comment about ed wont being in Alex pocket?

Neither newspaper columns nor party pledges mean anything at the moment - not enough to be categoric on any subject. "Trident will go through" being an example. 75% of Labour candidates do not support its renewal - and if it goes to a free vote it could be scuppered. The arithmetic will be all important - but even knowing it doesn't guarantee outcomes.

I'm all for a bit of "I reckon", and "its more than likely than" - its just always been a bugbear when people incorrectly state opinion as facts.

barcode · Wed 11 Mar, 2015 23.34

http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/david-c ... -1-3715852

David had his chance last august and bottle out then, I do believe David would get his arse tanned by Alex if it goes ahead this time around. Mind you I would rather have Nicole debating David.

Gavin Scott · Thu 12 Mar, 2015 00.12

It was sarcasm at Ed's expense, but yes he'd get gubbed.

barcode · Sat 14 Mar, 2015 19.07

New poster competition:

http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign ... -challenge

barcode · Mon 23 Mar, 2015 21.06

Adding to the list of Website trying to see its way to guess who will win is this gem: http://bet2015.co.uk/

Also its seems its not just labour who could be sucking up to the SNP
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetory ... lmond.html

Tory Home really has lots the plot this time, there is a huge difference between a Supply and vote in the Holryrood.

barcode wrote:I've notice a number of website and people make predictions about who are most likely to win this election. Its becoming very big business it seems.

* http://electionsetc.com/
* http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html
* http://ukgeneralelection2015.blogspot.co.uk/
* http://www.election2015.co.uk/
* http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general ... -know.html

It seems the Telegraph are the only ones making since, No one can state anything until after the scottish ref vote, because if Scotland leaves the Tories are going to win. Mind you the Guardain would make you think otherwise.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... l-election

What other peoples views on the outcome or are there any big factors which will come into play?

barcode · Tue 24 Mar, 2015 23.17

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32045419

This kind of language causes despair among Tories north of the border who fear that the party in London is waltzing into an SNP trap.
They know that many voters in Scotland will read the phrase "democratic will of the British people" and hear "democratic will of the English people".
Because, if it is illegitimate for Scottish MPs, from whatever party, to vote against one government and support another in the British parliament, then what, voters may ask, is the point of the union?
Who is dancing to Mr Salmond's tune now?

Its true if Labour plus SNP/Pyaid and greens have more seats than the government how is that UN-democratic? Tories can't have it both ways, either kept the union and the mps up north, or get rid.

What about the fact Nigel could hold David to some demands? what's the difference ....

Alexia · Wed 25 Mar, 2015 00.15

No difference. Same as Swiss / US / German system etc. Regional parties forming blocs in federal govt. UK has to catch up with how 21stC politics works. If SNP win more seats than LD, they have more of a mandate to govern. More than DUP, UUP etc who are being touted as Tory fall boys.

woah · Fri 27 Mar, 2015 07.59

So what did we think of the Cameron/Miliband interviews last night? I think Miliband came across surprisingly well - he seemed quite comfortable and passionate about what he was saying, both with Paxo and with the audience. Cameron did well also, but seemed to lack the passion that Ed Miliband was showing, to me at least.