Scottish independence

[barcode]

If the YES vote wins, it will because of fear and stupidity, since no decent amount of explanation has been done by either side of the campaign.

Seriously? The man who scans vintage Radio Times from three decades ago to see if That's My Dog was played on Thursday lunchtimes in the TSW region can't find explanations?

Do some more useful research.

http://www.yesscotland.net/undecided_responses

To be fair here are the NO campaign: http://www.bettertogether.net/

You are very correct I will need to do alot more research into getting, the best answer for this question... But it will come down to three key areas, Welfare, Debt and the EU. We already know about the pound, the queen, border controls.

With the future of Faslane, Nothing in the rule book saying if Labour wins in 2016 could not sign a new deal with England to keep the sub at Faslane for 100 years employing scottish people....

I have never looked for "That's My Dog"

[Gavin Scott]

If the YES vote wins, it will because of fear and stupidity, since no decent amount of explanation has been done by either side of the campaign.

Seriously? The man who scans vintage Radio Times from three decades ago to see if That's My Dog was played on Thursday lunchtimes in the TSW region can't find explanations?

Do some more useful research.

http://www.yesscotland.net/undecided_responses

To be fair here are the NO campaign: http://www.bettertogether.net/

You are very correct I will need to do alot more research into getting, the best answer for this question... But it will come down to three key areas, Welfare, Debt and the EU. We already know about the pound, the queen, border controls.

With the future of Faslane, Nothing in the rule book saying if Labour wins in 2016 could not sign a new deal with England to keep the sub at Faslane for 100 years employing scottish people....

I have never looked for "That's My Dog"

You just linked to the Better Together site, which doesn't answer specific questions. The page I provided is quite different. If you didn't it actually click it - which seems to be the case - I'd encourage you to do so.

Certain questions about things like welfare will be answered by whichever government is returned to office in 2016. The point of the Yes campaign is that the government will at least represent the majority of Scottish voters - something which hasn't been true for over two thirds of my lifetime.

Membership of Europe will surely be a matter for the whole of the uk, given the impending in/out vote.

[barcode]

Don't worry I did click on the page,and I did see alot of specific questions and answers. It seems the better together website does not do the same, the closest it get: http://bettertogether.net/pages/the-ve-case is pretty crap in comparison.

A good point in time as any to highlight the fact the union was created because of debt.

[cdd]

I'd be interested to hear from the "Yes" supporters what they would think if they lived in the UK. Because I think Scotland wouldn't necessarily gain, but the (remaining) UK would likely be weaker.

I personally don't think borders on contiguous land masses are a great idea. And I struggle with the idea that the "people of Scotland" have a distinct, non-UK national identity that they need to assert to the point of separation this day and age. I mean most people speak English as their first language!

[martindtanderson]

I would feel better about this referendum if it was not the English hating Alex Sammond leading the charge.

I am not Scottish myself, but my Nan on my Father's side of the family is from Glasgow, and all that side are.

[Gavin Scott]

I would feel better about this referendum if it was not the English hating Alex Sammond leading the charge.

I am not Scottish myself, but my Nan on my Father's side of the family is from Glasgow, and all that side are.

He's not "English hating" any more than I am, Martin. He is Scotland loving.

I challenge you (and google) to find a solitary instance of an anti-English utterance from him.

He's only ever dubbed this by other people.

[martindtanderson]

I would feel better about this referendum if it was not the English hating Alex Sammond leading the charge.

I am not Scottish myself, but my Nan on my Father's side of the family is from Glasgow, and all that side are.

He's not "English hating" any more than I am, Martin. He is Scotland loving.

I challenge you (and google) to find a solitary instance of an anti-English utterance from him.

He's only ever dubbed this by other people.

I can't point to a specific speech of his, but I have heard him enough times during party conference season, and on shows like Question Time to know that he is either coasting on an anti-English feeling, or he is actively stirring it up.

I have nothing against Scotland wanting Independence, and to be honest I don't care enough either way to have a view on whether they should or should not go their own way. What annoys me is Alex Salmond's attitude, as well as the unfair nature of Scottish MPs voting for English (and sometimes Welsh) issues.

[barcode]

Alot of people up here dislikes Alex Salmond's attitude.

[martindtanderson]

Alot of people up here dislikes Alex Salmond's attitude.

You can love your country, without shitting on your neighbour

[scottishtv]

I would feel better about this referendum if it was not the English hating Alex Sammond leading the charge.

I would disagree on the English-hating bit, as Salmond is generally acknowledged to have turned his party away from having that attitude (publicly, at least) during his two long tenures as leader. Whether some members have those views, it's hard to say, but I don't get the impression he hates the English.

There is this general sense though of Scotland being hard done by, and certainly nationalism really flourished in the 70s on the basis on 'Scotland's oil' being stolen. By who? They would say the Tories, and "Westminster" Governments (encompassing civil servants too), so any vague general anti-English sentiment probably arises in turn through these resentments.

I'm interested in how this is being viewed south of the border, as Alex Salmond isn't leading the charge. Amongst non-SNP voters, focus groups have continuously shown that Mr Salmond is seen as aloof, arrogrant and a bit too smug, especially amongst women voters. That's why Nicola Sturgeon is the Scottish Government's official face of the referendum - recently given special responsibility for 'Government Strategy and the Constitution'.

Indeed, it's also partly why the Yes Scotland campaign has been created to try and create more of a mainstream movement that shows that supporters in favour of independence apparently aren't just SNP supporters.

[martindtanderson]

Me personally, I don't have strong feelings either way. I am more curious as to how it could change things I have considered traditional and historic, like the Union Flag, etc.

I do think it is a little unfair that people in Scotland can decide on something that may have a big affect on the English as well as the Scots. And there is some unfairness with Scottish MPs voting in Westminster.

There will be many who feel strongly in favour of the union etc, but that is not me.